Upgrade from m700 to bhk 250

#1

Hi all

I would like your input on if the upgrade from the m700s to the bhk 250 would be a substantial upgrade on the sound quality specially based on the price difference.

My other components are
DIrectstream Dac
BHK Preamp
Power plant P12
B&W 805 d3

Thank you

#2

Yes, it’s not a huge level of better. The M700 are really good, but after hearing the BHK250 you won’t want to go back. With your system you will hear a difference.

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#3

Thank you for your input on this

#4

I upgraded from m700’s to BHK250. Initially, before burn-in a good upgrade. After BHK250 has some time to warm up, a very nice sweet. I am now ready to do some tube rolling, as the Amperex 7308 made a huge difference in my BHK Pre. I expect even more with NOS in Amp.

Very happy with upgrade, BHK250 has been around for a few years, so you should be able to get great price on new one. It is a big and heavy beast, and does get a bit warm, which may bother me this summer…

ALL PS Audio and loving it! Thanks Paul and PS Audio Team!
DMP / DS DAC / BHK SIG PRE / BHK 250 / DS PP15
Goldenear T Ref

Next up, some ISO-Acoustics Orea’s for most of the above. Those new PS Audio speakers will have to be killers to replace my GE T Refs!

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#5

Tks a look for your comments. I might make the jump and go for the bhk250s :slight_smile:

#6

Nice! The BHKs are just my favorite amplifiers of all time. I know it’s hard for people to get their heads wrapped around the need for great amplifier power in the system - especially when the amp just sits their quietly doing its job without complaint or notice,
but once you take the plunge and upgrade to a BHK or M700s there’s a whole new world of music waiting for you.

Congratulations!

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#7

Paul
Among high-end amplifiers with lofty aspirations, the BHKs are far less expensive than their competitors. I’m sure you have heard amps that cost far more.

#8

Oh, that is for sure. I’ve heard $100K amps that are good but just don’t float my musical boat like the BHKs. There’s certainly prettier ones out there but none I have found that come close sonically.

#9

I know it’s not ideal but the P12 would be able to power the BHK 300s?
The other components connect to the p12 would a Directstream and the BHK preamp.

#10

I wouldn’t recommend the P12 for a pair of BHK amps. It can technically do it but it’ll be struggling.

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#11

Tks for the clarification Paul appreciated

#12

Hi Paul,

What about the following for a P20:

Emotiva RMC-1(Surround sound)
BHK Pre-2 channel and HT bypass
DSD DAC
2 BHK 300s
1 Steller M700 on center
1 Emotiva surround sound amp(10 channel for sides, rears, atmos ceiling)
Oppo 203
Cable box

Do you think it can handle that, most that have it say it can but I want to get your feedback.

Thanks for all you do!

-Jason

#13

A P20 for each BHK then?

#14

Follow up on that I guess that the p12 also will struggle with the bhk 250? Tks for all the guidance !

#15

Man I hope not…I am trying to save for the first one now lol

#16

I have the following equipment plugged into a P20 on a dedicated 20 amp circuit and the load hasn’t exceeded 35%. You should be good with one P20.

BHK Preamp
DirectStream DAC
BHK 300’s
Intel NUC 8th Gen for Roon Core
DLink DSG-105
Sony XBR85X900F TV
Xfinity X1 Cable Box
4K Apple TV

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#17

I’m running my BHK 300s, BHK Pre, DMP, DSDac, all through my P12. No problem. Not even working hard! My speakers are PBN M2!5. Easy to drive, 4 ohm, 95db/1w/1meter.

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#18

I end up upgrading to the BHK 300, now I am no sure if I should connect the amps direct to the wall and use the P12 only for the DSD and BHK Pre or connect all to the P12.
When i connect all the electronics and amps to the P12 load is around 46%.
Beside load on the P12, the amps would have any limitation in dynamics, sound quality or any risk to damage any of the components?