Your Next Upgrade? (Part 2)

Happy Cake Day!!!

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Happy cake day too!

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Thanks, I’ll take a look at the Marantz Link 10 again. Maybe my dealer can get one. Congratulations for your birthday. Greetings Andreas

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@luca.pelliccioli your next upgrade? They are a little too far away for us state side!

Very happy with my Marantz 40n in the second system. Replaces the Strata MK1.

Thanks for the suggestions Andreas. Marantz seems to have quite a few choices.

Trying to keep the setup simple in the second system. A little hesitant about all-in-one!

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Has anyone had experience with Snake River Audio cables? TAS seems to like their cables often.

Their new flagship cables are TakShaka line, and the conductors consist of 24k gold, pure red OFHC copper, and pure silver, The PC is 9 AWG! That just sounds like something will sound good. :laughing: Could it be a poor man’s Stealth Gold that is coming?

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I know Jonny Wilson from Snake River Audio. He also ran Sonist Audio speakers after founder Randy Beckert passed away. Cool person.

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The Moon 791 or even the 8… seems to be another excellent candidate. The Grimm MU2 isn’t bad either. The only downside is that this requires an additional Roon subscription. Meitner MA3i, Moon 791, Marantz Link 10n, Grimm MU2…

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What I like about the MU2, sound quality apart of course (as many trusted members can attest), is the ā€œall in oneā€ design. You have a server, a streamer, a DAC and a preamplifier all in one single chassis.

I’m used to server + streamer solution, having a Innuos Statement. But I think that the big deal here is keeping the path from streamer to DAC the shortest possible, internally. This can preserve the signal from noise much better.

We all know that Grimm already found the way to reduce digital noise with the MU1, generally considered almost immune. Now that immunity has been prolonged until the DAC with the MU2.

Sound quality
Less noise in general due to its own design - like MU1
Less noise due to only 1 power cord needed - EMI
Less noise due to zero USB/SPDIF//AESEBU or what else digital cable - shortest signal path possible

And a preamplifier too, if needed.

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Do you have a MU2 on loan in your system @luca.pelliccioli ?

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To be honest I shouldn’t talk about MU1 and MU2, because I haven’t personally heard them yet, sorry.
I was summarizing what I learned from others around there (bad practice, I know).

Al (as usual) pushed my curiosity into MU2 last summer and I made some research.

I had several conversations with Eelco for months in the desperate attempt to find an Italian dealer interested in selling Grimm products in my country, unfortunately unsuccessfully. I don’t give up.

Anyhow I have a MSB environment now, it would be a big problem (financially) to replace all with MU2.

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I can speak on behalf of Grimm with my own experience. I use the MU1 with the DAC in the Gryphon Ethos. The MU2 I have some experience with not in my system yet. @straightwire, @adifferentpaul, and @aangen all have the MU2 I’ve experienced it at two of those places and it is exceptional. The MU1 replaced my Auralic Aries G2w/Horewege power supply. The G2 and MU1 were very close but the MU1 had more of that ā€œI want to listen to it longerā€ effect. More organic IMO than the Aries. I attribute this to less jitter which the Grimm excels at getting rid of the jitter! You can go wrong with either IMO!

The MU2 is a better buy with the DAC incorporated. The MU1 if you already own a DAC you love gets the job done. The MU1 will not output native DSD 256 but I can say I’m not suffering. It will play DSD 256 but it’s converted going out thru AES. The Ethos only does DSD 128 :cry: I feel so limited.
I will somehow survive for now.

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This is too bad. Eelco makes a darn good product and the dealers not working with Grimm to offer his products is doing the Italian audiophile a disservice imo.

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You non-owners talked more about MU2 than our owners here! But I agree with both of your evaluation :laughing:

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Yes will be very exciting to have them compared. What I heard from trustworthy people I know that had a listen to the Marantz Model 10 amp and Link 10n streamer they were really very excited. Some info here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbxfd-i5GOI

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I also like the Moon 791 and is Lowbeat’s current reference. An additional separate power supply is to follow, which could lead to higher performance. No matter whether Moon, Marantz, Meitner or Grimm, they are all very powerful components.

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Luca, I do not want to distract you from your vacation, but since you were already thinking about MU2 I might as well give my helping hand.

Just do it! Think of the benefit:

  • Get rid of cluster of boxes
  • Get rid of spiderweb of cables
  • Get rid of cluster of accessories that you do not need anymore
  • Much cleaner look of your rack
  • You will get a good chunk of money back from selling cluster of above
  • Use that money to buy Stealth Gold cables because they will be so much better than Sakra
  • It is very possible you will like the sound even better!

Now go to the slope and enjoy skiing :wine_glass:

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Thanks, Donald.

I was curious to listen to a MU2, just to have an idea.

Financially I’m not ready. I have invested in MSB the last 2 years and I’m really happy (DAC Digital Director and amp). Even if the MU2 sounded as good as all MSB components (hypothetically), I could sell them at 30-40% of their original value. I mean, loosing 60-70% of the money spent.

It’s hard to find a good reason to do that. Sound quality should be the real goal after all and I’m not so anxious to compare my current MSB based system with MU2 to be honest.

If I were to start a new system from scratch, you can bet, MU2 + Gryphon D333 would be my choice, without a doubt. But that is not the case for me, the journey so far has brought me to a different place.

To put it simply: it took me years (effort and money) to reach the top of this mountan, from which I’m looking at a wonderful panorama that makes me heppy now as never before. Why do I need to spend time and money to go down and start again a hard work looking for another top of the mountain, that I don’t know if it’s higher or better than the one I have successfully already done?

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I was not too serious, but I had fun with you. If I were in your shoes, I would never even want to get close to MU2. It is too dangerous. :no_good_man:

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