That kinda money and $1k more gets me a DirectStream Sr. (used a bit less). I love listening to music and will check out the video and some reading for my curiousity as well.
432 EVO does make an entry level unit for 1000 Euro. Like many other product lines, the cost of admission rises as you move up the tiers. I have the AEON model.
do you know of any software solution that allows us to experiment with the 432hz tuning (albeit not perfect)?
That Swiss Army Knife of an audio program, Audacity, has plug-ins (some free) which give you Autotune capabilities. Never tried them myself.
It’s a JOKE, son…you seem to be taking an unnecessarily defensive posture on this topic for some reason. Probably too much Civet Caffeine ; ). Hey, I have a Massively Upsampling DAC, so I’m no purist. But clearly the Next Level is to insist that everyone Tune It Down!
It was just a QUESTION, son… Seriously though, my tone was chill in that last post despite how it came off. I was/am curious as to your position, joke or not. Honestly, I do love the sound my server spews out. To my ears, there seems to be something to this. Thought it would be fun to share and to see if any others have had a similar experience with 432Hz tuned/retuned music.
After your response to Speed Racer, I was reading it as such. Apologies.
And whenever I write “son”, you hafta…Ah Say, y’hafta imagine Ah’m a-talkin’ like Foghorn Leghorn.
This is clearly not a new idea, but your device may be a new implementation of it.
I certainly have little patience for people with preconceived opinions that are not based on experience with the thing in question. (As such, I have no opinion, but I would say I’m predisposed toward the idea, if it is possible to separate it from: A) the effects of simply tuning down a half step and all that comes from that, and B) the clutter of Beliefs and Blather surrounding it). This might be an interesting test case for measurementalists, as it involves Opera and numbers and math and so on ; ). “Yep - Bel Canto, third order harmonics with the Fibonnacci Sequence…I’m in!” (kidding again)
I just moved, so if I can find one of my acoustic guitars in this pile, I’ll tune it down and let you know. I think I see it in the back corner ; )
Completely asymmetrical room. Does that mean I’m screwed with the Cardas Adherents? : )
I’ll need to hook all this crap up before I can do any serious “experimentation”. I know as a singer I will be thankful for the extra half step. Quite often cover bands pitch songs down to a lower key for a lead singer that does not have a naturally high voice (assuming you aren’t covering Leonard Cohen).
And keys sound different from one another, they are not simply higher or lower. That is in part to do with different voicings of chords being natural for the hands in different keys on different instruments, but I think there is more to it than that. Elk may want to weigh in. I think it would be interesting to do some ambient/Eno-ish stuff in both to see how that resonates.
Except this thread is titled “432Hz Retuned Music”. It’s not titled “432 EVO AEON”. So, you need to back off on the attitude just a bit.
Yes, please do… But I won’t hold my breath as it appears you have more important things to tend to. Wowzers!
This is hilarious. We are talking about retuning from 440Hz to 432Hz while maintaining timing in this thread. That server you have does it using some process that is not detailed and so will the Schiit Audio Gadget. I made no statements saying that one was better than the other…only that they did the same thing. My only determining statement was that the box you bought was too expensive for my tastes and that I would wait for the Schiit Audio Gadget before buying anything.
I made no “presumptuous/misleading statements offered up as though they are truths.” So just settle down…
I started to draft a brief history of pitch. Fortunately, it occurred to me to look at Wikipedia. Its entry on History of pitch standards in Western music is quite good. I think many here will find it interesting. Click
Orchestras playing on period instruments often employ a lower pitch center as the instruments were made to play lower and sound their best in this range. Many cannot be tuned higher either due to physical limitations (string tension and the like) as well as physical properties such as tuning slide length.
Fair enough. I recant that statement as it does appear I read too much into what you stated which was referring to the simple act of the retune (i.e. 440Hz to 432Hz), not the manner in which each appliance achieves the retune. Sorry, man.
That said, it doesn’t appear there has been much activity on the Schiit Gadget since October 2017. Do you know that it is actually still in development? They demo’d it at the 2017 RMAF but I can’t find anything else written about it since.
Schiit is still working on it. There was some other technology they wanted to develop to use with the product that has pushed out the release of the product. But, they are still working on the technology to get it right. As I said, they hired a brilliant scientist to work on the math and algorithms to do this in a way not done before. That scientist is still working at Schiit.
Good info. I did read somewhere that early price estimations for the Gadget was $200 which seems too low considering the long development time and the overhead required to keep the scientist on payroll.
Interesting read, Elk. Thanks for the link.
Ay-yi-yi! That’s a lotta pitches.
It is.
Increasing pitch to add brightness and the sonic wars which resulted should sound familiar.
@speed-racer I do appreciate your open mindedness to even consider this 432Hz stuff worthy of trying. When Schiit does ever get around to releasing their product, it will be interesting to hear yours, and others opinion on the effects of the retune.
The 432 EVO and Gadget are two entirely different products. And as @aangen pointed out, cost point of the 432 EVO is largely due to the fact it is a full fledged music server and not just a DSP device. There is some really sound engineering applied to this music server that is of value and justifies the cost, in my opinion. To that point, this server has THREE linear power supplies feeding it! That said, nobody can doubt the seriousness of the manufacturer when it comes to sound quality. But, if a music server is not a need based on your current hardware makeup, I can understand how the Gadget would be attractive.
I’ve been awaiting the Schitt Gadget myself. Jeff, congrats on your equipment. It’s your money and as long you are pleased with the results, I say good for you…Enjoy.
Thanks!” @netspecht-2! It has honestly been one of the best investments I have made to date. I bought it sight unseen based on the fact it is a bit perfect music server based on top-notch hardware and sound engineering principals. Plus, it was the music server in the 2017 Munich High End Audio Show that was awarded the Best Sounding Room. Munich is the show of all shows so the competition was fierce.
Sometimes you just have to say, “What the f&€£” and follow your gut. No regrets whatsoever.