Sorry, in USA. I want that one too though! Seriously.
Yes, cables are mainly “make me feel good” past a certain point. Nothing wrong with feeling good as long as you do not break the law! Brodric, so you are getting full FD too? I am not so crazy. Plus you want two systems of it! I am not ashamed of having money either. I paid my dues plus I give Millions to Charity. They said my full FD package will be here by middle of May. I already put a down payment.
Not bragging but maybe more money than brains. Cables are mainly a feel good thing at that level. Order was nearly $300K but giving $70K on trade in’s. I committed to it so too late now. That is every cable in the system. I have two P20’s Running all the way back to the transformer on separate 200 Amp line. It is in separate box with AFCI/GFCI. So protected.
I have made an enquiry with the dealer and have been given a price. The dealer whole allocation of FD has been sold out, except for one cable. Which I can have after the reviewer that has it now is done with it.
The publisher is clickmusic and they are in Hong Kong. They have told me that title was never released on CD, it is only available as a digital download (I find this problem with video game music also). I’ve asked them if they can do me a one-of pressing on CD.
For me, going XLR allowed me to escape the cable hype. If Mogami is good enough for the guys making your recordings (and it is), why not for us mere listeners?
Because there are better sounding options, as I have discovered first hand through experience.
Our audiophile world is foreign to professionals. Professionally, over 20 years I sell microphones of the best German producers. When I tell professionals about the influence of power and cables on the sound, they look at me like I’m crazy.
As an old fart don’t put much value in wires and agree in this case with the professionals (usually do).
(My investment in wires amounts to roughly 6% of what I paid for the overall system.)
The math on cables for professional applications tends to be quite different than for home audio.
A) Music does not pay
B) You often need dozens of 20’ XLRs for live gigs rather than, say (6) 6’ers - and multiples of that quantity to wire a studio.
C) You need to be able to bend them and walk on them.
D) See A.
Mogami is considered “expensive” cable in pro audio. It does not mean it sounds better than other options. Or even that it is “good enough”. It’s actually a bit “shiny” sounding, which I’m guessing is what most people like about it. I also suspect some of the folks who bemoan the lack of quality in recordings are some of the same folks who think wires don’t matter.
Audiophile cables are simply not an option for all but the most successful artists/studios, or alternatively - for a small, purist audio recording chain (two mics and a pre to recorder).
So sorry but I HAD to quote a perfect line…
In the studio we have many top Mic’s. IMO the best are vintage Neuman, RCA and Telefunken. Studio is wired with Kubala Sosna. Since our customers expect the best. Does it make a difference after effects, compression, other VST’s? I doubt it but people expect it.
Good point. I would guess a common misconception is that “audiophile”-type recordings such as classical do not have processing, but that is not the case unless that was the concept to begin with, as with some labels. What is your studio?
Getting a U67 Thursday. Pretty geeked about that : )
Reading the title of this thread again, another thought is that you might pick different wires for that particular application than you would with a pre. And a different pre might drive different choices. It’s about synergy with your gear and ears.
I’m actually about to try a number of different speaker cables and some mic cables for both stereo and studio. Should be interesting - but not for long. Mostly the comparison thing drives me nuts. Very hard job to do objectively.
I use Mogami Neglex balanced cables on the analog connection between an Oppo BDP-105 and a Stellar GCD. I read real customer reviews first. Most described the cable as quiet, neutral, and making no change to the sound. It was suggested that the quality of the source component and the pre-amp would be the determiners of the overall sound. I agree after listening. I tried a few other XLRs-- a couple of Audioquests from a friend (can’t remember the goofy names-- potpourri, or pancake… dunno), an IXOS from my stash, a home-brew Canare star quad design. and Choseal from China, and each changed, or should I say enhanced, the sound. None of them sounded bad, but the Mogami seemed more natural and neutral-- or quiet as some reviewers called it. In that sense, the Mogami offers nothing to the sound, and that’s fine with me.
Have never understood the attraction of fancy interconnects/speaker cables/power cords. Guess it’s just because they’re visible and easily swappable (another audiophile trophy?). What about the wire inside the wall, on the way to your transformer, substation, and/or power plant? What about the wire inside the speaker or each component? How many “wire nuts” dig inside walls, speakers, and/or components to to root out nefarious tiny wires with simple soldered connections? And where would the madness stop? One cap upgrade on your tweeter could make more difference than all your wires.
I wholeheartedly agree with you - but others say they hear major improvements going to the nth-degree with cables and, if you are of that bent then, upwards to “$300K+” is money well spent to them !!!
I use Mogami balanced interconnects and I am more than happy with the performance of my system with said cables. I dare say that would be anathema to the dedicated to cable fraternity.
But each to their own. It’s not our money!
Cables are a component and, like every other component in a system, can make a significant difference in the system’s overall sound.
Determining what component upgrade will make the biggest difference for the money spent is always tricky.
Like the PowerPlants, it is difficult to accept cables can make a significant difference until one has heard the improvements these components can make in a system.
Additionally, cables are yet another component audiophiles can play with. Like tweaks, many enjoy experimenting.
My good friend is a distributor of PS Audio, TARA Labs, Van den Hul, MBL and many other companies. I receive everything I need for testing, I also tested very expensive cables.
I’m not too rich, so despite our madness, if I did not hear a significant difference, I would not buy a silver Verasstar GI Signature power cables or VdH The Platinum interconnect. Maybe it is easier for me to make such decisions because I am treated in a special way and I use the sale.
Recently, my two colleagues were under the condition of the difference between TARA Labs ISM Onboard The 0.8EX and VdH The Platinum XLR interconnects (in favor of VdH).
I also have an HDMI Wireworld Platinum cable. I have SR Blue Quantum fuses in all PS Audio components.
A few months ago, I led an independent power line to the audio equipment with a special cable. Before installing in the wall, I made a comparative test with a white socket, which can be seen in the picture.
My system is a little bit different because I have active 3-way loudspeakers assembled by me (the best Scan-Speak Speakers, each has its own Hypex NC500 amplifier powered with ± 85 V, analogue crossover 200 Hz, 2,6 kHz, 24 dB / Oct.) and I need XLR cables 1.5 m long, but I think that only good cables allow you to use the full potential of active components.
2chan, My dealer in Dallas sent me assorted cables to test between DSDac direct to M700 mono amps including high end MIT’s and AudioQuest neither of which mated well with the DSDac, chose AnalysisPlus Solo Crystal Oval all copper XLR’s and paired with their Solo Crystal Oval 8 speaker cables and their Power Oval 2 Mk 2 Power cords all mid range prices, then added 2 PSA 12 Power cords for the M700s, and I can’t comment on synergy, but I will say re-cabling made a huge difference in SQ into 25 yr old B&W 801 Matrix speakers. My dealer is a Bricasti fan and highly recommends AnalysisPlus, after a year, and with the addition of Snowmass in the DS, sound has never been better. AP offers Silver Crystals if your sound signature demands silver. Cheers mate. PS (considering adding the BHK Pre in the chain)
Gabi will be at AXPONA explaining Future Dream! For all that are going and interested in it. I am going to do my whole system with it. I already ordered it all. Luckily my smaller system does not have too many cables! The cost in the reference system is prohibitive but that is where it would really make a difference. For instance I am not sure how much I will resolve with just a AES cable 5x the price of the DS Senior. Although I will be getting the TSS. If it is better than my Select DAC II I will just bring the MSB upstairs and swap the reference system with the TSS then. What is incredible is MR. Smith will incorporate what he can from TSS into the DS. PSA is like no other company. Like Samsung just makes you buy a new phone every year because they only do 3 updates period. PSA has the consumer’s best interest in mind, not their bottom line obviously!
I have purchased and I am very happy with Wireworld cables. I wish all mine were Platinum, but only a couple are. My XLR connections are all Silver Starlight 7’s and I have no regrets with them.
