Cable Sutra - Whisper Power Cord, Common Ground Cables

Well that’s why the rods are pre-stiffened. Yuk yuk ahh I would continue with the jokes but my amp just blew a SR Orange! I had over-rated it to 3.15 from 2.5 which is what the amp calls for. Now just put a regular ceramic 2.5 back in and it fired right up. Grrr. Well, I guess it was time for me to try the purple.

Fascinating what a fuse does. The system sounds similar in ways but in others it is just not even close. Imaging and clarity are there, but the vibrancy and power are gone. Soundstage is spacious, but not wrap around all-encompassing like before. Tonality is slightly different too.

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I am back to stock from purple on our P20. Frankly I can’t tell what changed. I need a few days to realign my ears.

I think there’s something to be said about powering down and pulling power cords. I swear I hear a slight difference in doing just that.

But then again the day is winding down here and I listened to a lot of loud punk today. Perhaps it’s all of the head banging.

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You can send the purple to me I’ll give it a test run. Lol

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No question when the PC, or cables are removed or even moved, it takes a good 15 minutes to bring back the sound. They need time to “settle-in”.

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Have experienced the same thing unplugging and replugging in
power cables…

Interesting thing too is occasionaly when I power off my P15 at
the power switch in the back of the unit…and later power back
up…the sq seems to improve at times a little at other times…
by a chunk a lot!!

Your ears are hearing a real delta, even though you punish them…be
kind to your ears…

Best wishes

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I noticed while doing P-20 power cord comparisons. The switch will occasionally send power spikes to my Pre/pro causing it to glitch and have to perform hard resets of pulling all digital input cords and it’s power cord waiting ten minutes. It seemed to work better using a swift pull of the input cord or ensuring the Pre/Pro was powered off first. The P-20 likes to glitch on start up even if switch was used first about 10 percent of time.

The filter caps must continue draining with switch turned off.

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One of my P20’s goes brain dead if the power is interrupted for a short (few seconds or less) time and then back on. I have to cycle the power switch while holding the magic blue button in.
Then everything is good again. I do like to do the 60 second degauss every time I sit down to listen for a while. Does it matter? I dunno but I feel better so it is better.

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It’s called “picky ears” :grin:

When my P15 or in your case, P20…on powering back up the
regen chip reboots and reloads the software afresh…

Somehow doing so results in better sound.

Best wishes

I think any device that has onboard computing capability has a “hash bin” that slowly gets filled up during regular use and starts to spill over into a non desired area. Restarting the device empties the bin.

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I found the degauss scrub more beneficial prior to going full gonzo on pwercords, fuses and RF/EMI absorption. I used to ride the clean button several times a session. It helped my transformer stay clean. My mind is another matter.

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Never thought of that regarding the regen’s chip…

I use clean wave prior to listening sessions, when at times
sound isn’t as clear as I know it could be…running clean wave
fixes that…

But everyone’s ears are different…

Best wishes

I’m glad my ears aren’t as good as some here or I would have a half a million invested instead of the quarter million I have invested into my gear now. :rofl:

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I thankfully don’t track audiophile investment dollars else. I might scare myself as to what the quantity of money it might return monetarily if invested in another type of loosely defined worthwhile financially “sound”investment by others. One thing for sure you can’t take it with you, if not spent.

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I don’t track the cost or really care for the reasons stated (you cant take it with you and it’s not a financial burden) but my insurance man was doing his annual checkup for me and the contents coverage did not automatically cover the replacement cost of the stereo bits.
The good thing is coverage was only $1 per $1,000 of excess coverage so it didn’t add much to the bill to cover everything.
I have said for a few years now that costs for everything have added one more digit to the left side of the decimal place since we were just out of high school. That seems pretty legit no matter where you look.

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Duncan finished my Elite cable with Furutech NCF connectors.
He listened, but biased because he was forced to use an adapter because the cable is European standards.
According to him, the NCF connectors have brought a plus compared to the “normal” version with a clear improvement on the bass.
I look forward to delivery of the cable next week…

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Great.News. Please update us with a comparison to your present reference cable. Hopefully you can get a AB7050hF tuning ring to slide onto it after you have running a bit.

Duncan was gushing over his trial on the Whisper Elite this week on his podcast. Right up until he blew his SR fuse.

Ahhh I had just forgotten about the fuse :sob: just kidding, I am counting the days til the new one comes, and measuring my caps and thinking about replacing the thermistor before I reinstall it. No more blown fuses since that one evening/morning. Hmmm.

I gave Fred’s cable more time than usual on the special ground burn rig, and I cannot deny that his cable delivers more of what the Elite does best, compared to my own Elite on the DAC. Bass power, articulation and definition were surprising. I didn’t find the tuning ring making as big a difference on the DAC power cable as the one feeding the P10, interestingly. I had a ring on my Elite and no ring on Fred’s and his was still superior. The FI-50 connectors really are something.

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The 3M absorber Tuning ring is strange. I like them best at regenerator. I run them on my Power Regenerator, Power Amps, LPS for cable router/switch. Ended up pulling them off my Pre Amp and DAC power cables. Kind of the too much of a good thing you discussed with Your EMI sleeving.trial on everyevery type cable.

The base Whisper I found two tuning rings in different placements made it more Elite like in sound.but not as good. But my base whispers have no EMI sleeve.

The 3M absorber internal on noisy components especially on Digital streaming devices. I am all about that and over half of a regenerator transformer

You’ll have to stayed tuned. I am going to be breaking in something really expensive and interesting. I may need some white Diamond studded gloves just to install these. Hopefully my tweaked system is up to the task to be able to show what these can do.

They are expensive but worth it. I have another pair on order. I don’t think I will use anything else going forward. Hopefully they will be here tomorrow.

Thinking somewhat in the vein of ab7050 etc, has anyone tried/is it worth messing with pyrolytic graphite as a cable shield material? https://industrial.panasonic.com/cdbs/www-data/pdf/AYA0000/AYA0000C27.pdf