I am not sure about router, and I don’t plan to connect my satellite to the RouteMaster. I don’t know if Luca has experienced with router either.
Unlike Master fuse, I have not heard of negative experience with these grounding devices. However, some find RouteMaster is not doing much in their systems.
My system is more reactive to the City with Puritan PSM-156, and less with RouteMaster too. Therefore I want to try more cables with more components to see if I can bring up the level of performance to match with PSM-156/City.
I thought my system was dead quiet too until I got the Puritan and City, RouteMaster is not something I can recommend since I have not tried the full loom in my system yet.
I did more research and it appears routemaster only comes with three ground cords that are inclusive though nine equipment connections. The extras are 75 dollars each. The groundmaster with the rods inground would likely be my end game versus the City which only gives 90 percent improvement. It seams in tweaks its that last ten percent is what always matters most. Which reseller are you using? I only had Jaguar in WA pop up in initial search of products.
I wouldn’t be using a Puritan conditioner and would hook up the P20. I wonder about hooking up grounds to the PSA DS mk2 and other digital if using galvanic isolation. Seams one may defeat the other unless you deselect galvanic isolation.
I am now using to HDMI grounding plugs for i2s1 and i2s2 in the mk2. Adding the second HDMI grounding plug made sound quality soar. So maybe the other unused mk2 digital inputs would do the same attached to the route master?
B) Even if something is galvanically isolated, things enter equipment in many ways. Galvanic isolation “lowers noice parallell to the signal and do not eliminate noice to 100 percent”. The whole dac is one big antenna for Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and others. Try grounding it without using an another way that a connector that has got “galvanic isolation turned on”.
Each CAD GC1 has 2 ports. You can use both of them or just one.
If you use 2 ports of the same CAD box, it is recommended not to connect a Signal Ground and simultaneously a Chassis Ground, if the component has them lifted.
If a component has Signal Ground and Chassis Ground not lifted, that is the case of most server/streamer/switch, you can connect both the wires of the CAD boxes wherever you want.
Scott Berry suggested me to use my 3 CAD GC1 as follow:
Server/streamer, the noisiest component + ground lug of Puritan
Switch + ground lug of Puritan
DAC no other wires connected, just one to the BNC unused port
Yes, it comes with only three cables, and I purchased it from Chris of Parts Connection to get some discounts including cables (email him).
HDMI shorting plug helped too, but grounding devices will help more. They do not affect tonal balance and will only clear up noises and improve smoothness, fuses are a different matter
I’m half watching this thread, but when you said the above I decided to check out Parts Connexion since I have bought quite a few things from them. ALL of the Puritan items are shown as for sale in Canada only. You must be a good customer!
I’m fortunate to never having had a hum or system noise problem. FWIW, I’ve had PS Audio Power Plants since the original. My system is not immune from noise in the recording; I can identify Dolby A tape noise quickly. I sympathize with those that struggle with these gremlins.
When it comes to black background. The a hum or hiss has little to do with it. But once you’ve heard better and all the other details jump out you get surprised how RF and EMI is destroying the sound. The Master series grounding is using Ferromagnetic materials to eliminate sound. My experience down that rabbit hole has helped me immensely with installs on power cords and on noisy electronics.
Most of my my experience is with the 3M AB7050HF making tuning rings for AC Power Cables and DC Power cables. The most effect on of ring placement is usually a two inch wide ring placed one index finger from male plug backshell or the IEC backshell on a power regenerator. If you hadd dorbothane isolation in that area also that dampens vibration it will help. Some equipment i lay trimmed pieces of Sheet on top covers. It also does well placing it on IC chips. It gets quite tunable. It pays to listen to which placement is best if possible rather than covering everything in mass. You can get too much of a good thing otherwise and sound becomes thin.
The data sheets show the RF frequency bands the material affects as it turns the RF into heat. Thus it can work well on low impedance grounds pulling RF from shields on wires or box faraday cages. Some people have placed it on AC fuses as dots emulating what SR and Audio Magic achieves in their fuses. .
This thread covers some of my early experiences.
My Common Ground Whisper Power Cable thread Documents trying to implement success by mirroring what stealth cables does with tuning ring. Some power cables it offers no help. DC power cables are helped using a 1/2” ring near the end where cable leaves the LPS
My most recent involves Theoreticca BACH4MAC placement over the m1 processor chip. It can be very shape and placement specific. Trimming sheet or moving a few millimeter will have positive or negative effects. The great part it is very tuneable and reversible. Sometimes firmware changes to a DAC will affect how much absorber is needed. When DSMK2 went to Massive Beta software that reduced noise less absorber was needed
Many of these Grounding Products are based on sam principles.
The AQ Dragons seem to like 3M tuning rings a lot, and all my Dragons have tuning rings on them (2"). I even put a 1/2" ring on Dragon48 HDMI and It seems to help.
I use a IFI iPowerX power supply for Orbi Satellite, and it is very effective in cutting down the noise because the streaming sounded much cleaner with IFI. It has always been plugged into P15, and I thought if I switched it from the power plant to Puritan PSM-156 the system may sound even cleaner. The result? The life of my streaming SQ was cleaned out too. I put it back into P15 and the sound became fuller and more energetic. So, my best setup is still with MK2 and M1200 plugging into PSM-156, and everything else stays with P15.
Maybe the bad flue I’m fighting is driving me crazy… I’ve just plugged the P20 into the Puritan (I know, I know it’s an heresy!). All the sources fed by the P20 but the DAC that is fed by the Puritan. City connected as usual to the ground lug of the 156. All the CADs boxes as before.
From the display of the P20, no relevant changes in THD or voltage
The very first hours I was missing some details and sparkle sounds, now I’m becoming familiar with the new natural presentation, more relaxed and granular, even “distortion feeling more like analog”
The image is a little bit recessed, backwards
Fever strikes again!
Last weeks I was using just the Puritan, the P20 completely shut off. The silence was profound in my room. Once switched back on the P20, an audible and subtle buzz came back in the room. I was tempted to stop the experiment. After 6 hours playing music (today Derek and The Dominos is my mood) the pleasant silence is filling the environment again.
A different presentation I hadn’t yet explored before.
Despite the flu, I cooked Spaghetti with clams, a preparatory lunch for the New Year’s Eve dinner that we will eat while injured, without guests in total tranquility as convalescents. This allowed me to reconnect with music after 5 days forced into bed, what an amazing feeling!
Let me wish you all a wonderful New Year, my friends!
Another proof of the effectiveness of the 3M AB7050HF: I put a trimmed sheet on the router… it became “hot”. The noisier the device, the warmer the temperature of the material, draining RFI/EMI or whatever garbage! A sort of “noise detector”…
