Thanks Paul, interesting.
This helps me to postpone the decision of whether adding a second Muon Pro to the system or not.
Mmm pretty odd, both STEALTH and Pink Faun I’m using fit the Muon Pro input without any problem.
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Paul, it seems like you have similar solutions in your system that I’m thinking of. So it seems that one muon pro is enough for you. I read in a review about the ENO2 that a second one in front of the switch still helps. It probably always depends on your own situation. Perhaps two ENO2s complement each other to achieve the performance of a muon pro. I also thought about a solution with the LHY FMC. I’m thinking about whether I connect my Devolo magic powerline with Lan and ENO2 to the switch or with LHY fmc and fiber optic to the switch. If I get the Dragon source for my current switch I would have a Hurricane Source left over that I could use on the LHY FMC. Would fiberglass help?
A Pink Faun isolator in the streamer and then connect the Muon pro to it? Pink Faun is in the Netherlands. Maybe I should get another isolator and maybe a Pink Faun cable instead of a NA cable.
As far as I know, the LHY FMC has an isolated Ethernet input. Maybe this will help improve the sound and an additional isolator is not necessary.
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Nope, the Pink Faun LAN isolator is inserted in the router’s port.
Currently into the port I use for music:
router > Pink Faun LAN Isolator > cable > switch > cable > Muon Pro > server/streamer
For almost a year it was inserted in the router’s port used for the hardwired connected controller (iPad) like this:
router > Pink Faun LAN Isolator > cable > Waversa filter > cable > iPad
The FritzBox! Router has been set with:
wifi disabled
LED lights disabled
DECT disabled
Speed port 1 lowered at 100Mb (iPad path)
Speed port 2 lowered at 100Mb (grounded to a CAD GC1)
Speed port 3 2.5 Gb
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Absolutely no disrespect intended but after reading about the convoluted and complicated machinations you guys are going through, I’m happy I have a low-rez system
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Thanks Luca. I have an EN-1005+ isolator at the output of my router. It then goes to the Devolo magic transmitter on the ground floor. This will work similarly and I don’t necessarily have to buy anything new there. I’m just thinking about what to do with the connection of the Devolo magic in the listening room, which goes to the Melco switch s100 to the streamer with a Lan cable and an EN-1005+ isolator. An ENO2 there or a fiber optic connection instead of a Ethernet cable. When the muon pro comes in front of my streamer after the switch, I can still hear something from the ENO 2 in front of the switch ? Paul doesn’t notice anything even though he is experimenting with a second muon pro. The results may differ for me.
What to do now is to leave lan or put a fiber optic link in between. Advantages and disadvantages… Additional conversion of the signal, but galvanic isolation. Doesn’t the EN-1005+ or the Pink Faun do this the same way as fiberglass? Would a switch also help or do the Devolo magic already do a similar thing? Ok, with an additional switch I like the idea that my Hurricane source doesn’t disappear in the drawer and finds a place on the additional switch. Donald also uses two LHYs on top of each other with fiber optics. Or does he just have to do that because he doesn’t have Muon pro?
Before muon pro was available, I always read that two switches in a row would be a better solution in terms of sound.
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Exactly what I was thinking less than 2 years ago reading other members listing all these things, when I was a happy vinyl guy! I can perfectly understand, don’t worry!
Be advised, things can rapidly change!
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I can say with a lot of confidence that if you use a Dragon or hurricane for that matter on a Ethernet switch you are wasting money that can be used somewhere else in your system. I have not heard a difference between power cables on my switch. I do run fiber and isolating the internet connection from the rest of my home’s internet needs seemed to have helped tremendously.
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You’ll never know until you try, I’m afraid.
This is how this hobby works!
Don’t put too much effort in all these things, yes they can help improving sound quality but not at “that” level. If it’s a sunny day there, go walking in a park… a serene mood in your brain brings more results. I bet!.
Enjoy!
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I will ad using the Muon Pro in the SW6 Isolated port sounds better to me in than the other “standard” ports. And if you didn’t read on a different thread in my system the muon pro filter connected to switch>Stealth Cat8> to MU1 is best. Using it the way Network Acoustics recommends in the manual doesn’t sound good to my ears.
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Why can’t all the SW6 ports be isolated ports?
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For me, at least, I think it is important to maintain this perspective when reading about others’ experience with this type of kit here. In other words, most (but not all) of the changes at this level of performance are incremental – the product of a series of small but perceptible improvements (which do not, in and of themselves, result in “Wow!” moments).
YMMV/IME, etc.
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I’ll find out with the Dragon. If necessary, the CD drive can be used. I have significant differences in different fuses on my switch. A long time ago I connected a Furutech dps-4.1 to the switch’s power supply for testing and I remember that the stage display noticeably increased in space compared to the Hurricane source. Yes, Luca, slow me down a little. Maybe it makes sense to just install a muon pro in front of the streamer. There is at least agreement here that it improves the sound. Although I find it strange that some people connect it upside down. Maybe I should try an ENO2 and be flexible with the cable connection…
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I don’t quite understand this placement of the Pink Faun LAN Isolator as described. Did you mean to describe the signal path this way? The “main line” of the internet provider’s Ethernet connection comes in through a wall plate in my listening room. An AQ Forest Ethernet cable connects the wall plate jack to the router.
Did you place Pink Faun between your main Ethernet source and the router or actually place it in one of the router’s output jacks? If the latter, I am confused by its benefit because I thought the LAN Isolator was directional.
Appreciate any clarification you care to provide…
Maybe I misunderstood what you meant by the use of the term “router”?
Have a great weekend.
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Man, I thought I was nuts, but I am happy I did not go hardwire-all-the-way solution for my streaming. I would have turned into one of your guys here. 
As many here know, all my noise isolations were done between the satellite and the network server. In between I have two LHY switches and a FO link. Lately I have achieved a level (with my fourth streamer in three year) that finally can match the best of discs, and my urge of improvement has slowed down too (cannot say stop unfortunately 
)
Here is my experience on SQ difference on cable/cord/filter on a Wi-Fi system:
Power conditioner/supply for Router upstairs: No detectable SQ difference
Power Conditioner/supply for Satellite downstairs: Noticeable improvement
SQ after LHY SW-10/FO/LHY SW-6 duo-switch implementation:
No detectable SQ differences before Duo-switch (sat. to SW-6 isolated input) from using different ethernet cables and PCs.
Noticeable SQ difference on ethernet cables and filters between SW-10 and MU2, and also noticeable difference on power cord for the main switch SW-10. Basically, before the FO link the SQ on cables/filters is insignificant to my hearing, and everything still matters after the switches including the main switch SW-10 itself (to MU2).
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My router is dedicated, just for the listening room and placed 2 meters far from the rack in the room itself. It means that I have a fiber line dedicated from the ISP, different from the rest of the house.
Agree with you, my previous set up (input port) was logical to isolate noise from the connected iPad.
Once I tried it into the output port providing the signal to the switch I surprisingly found a better result. Don’t ask me why.
I think that we need to learn more about routers and the industry should design something specific for audio purposes, better if not to be added downstream another router (like the Taiko or SR) but acting as main router.
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Have you tried the Pink Faun LAN Isolator between Muon Pro and the cable feeding it that is coming from the switch?
Ciao
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I’ve lost interest in fuses and footers. I consider other tweaks like switches, filters, plug-ins something enjoyable to play with, no more no less.
The next level, in my opinion, is the improvement provided by grounding and cables, power cords more than others.
Having said that, if we are talking about “that” level… oh guys I need to consider a component or speakers. Or the power in general (conditioners, regens, dedicated lines etc etc). I’m looking forward to seeing what the PowerZone can do.
Anyway I recently got the concept of the way I listen. I called it the “right mood”, I mean the perfect match between a particular album/song and the particular state of mind I’m living in a precise moment of my life (being sadness, happiness, peace, angry, anxiety or whatever emotion). This is the biggest factor to consider to really keep in contact with the music.
The exception are the Sakra XLRs, that IME brought “that” level of improvement to my system.
This is my personal opinion, exclusively based on my short experience in this crazy hobby.
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Yes, I did. But doesn’t work: the sound becomes darker and loses dynamics and engagement.
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