HDMI (i2s) Cable Recommendation

Just received a .5 meter Wireworld Platinum HDMI cable. My what a big difference between this cable and the one supplied by PS Audio.

Better depth. better soundstage, better bass. Excellent. expensive but excellent sound.

ozzy

Ozzyā€¦give it time to relax/burn inā€¦it gets better and betterā€¦4_gif

mark-d,

I am using a usb with Purist Burn in tracks on it to break in the PS Direct Stream Memory Player.

I am planning on copying many of my favorite CDā€™s from the PS Memory Player/ PS Dac combo via the analog outs from the PS Dac to a Tascam recorder. Then I will place them on an external hardrive.

So, how long (hours) do you think it will take for the HDMI Platinum cable to be ready for CD Recording?

ozzy

An intriguing project. What benefit do you find in recording the analog outs to yet another digital format?

Ozzy. After about a 100~150 hours of use,the cable settled in quite nicely. With that being said,going beyond thatā€¦the WW continues to sound even more refined with continued useā€¦ Great hdmi for the DS/DMP combo.smiley-music005_gif

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mark-d, haxter1,

Thank you, I am playing it 24 hours a day. So far I probably have 35 hours on it. So Iā€™ll give it more time.

Elk,

I want to capture the sound of the PS/DS combo sound quality on a hard drive for playback later with my Bryston BDP-2 usb player. The Bryston runs through the PS Dac. This will allow me the convenience of having all of my music available at will.

I have about 6000+ recordings from CDā€™s, LPā€™s, High Rez downloads, concerts etc. on that hard drive (also, backed up on another hard drive).

The better the source the better they sound.

ozzy

Ozzy,

i donā€™t own a DMP but do you think that maybe capturing your recordings from the AES/EBU or the coax of the DMP would be better as it is still digital and then playing from your Bryston to the DSD as you have it set up now? No idea, just thought I would expand on Elks question/idea.

This is just a thought, I am sure others will have better ideas.

Veneet,

Believe I thought of that first and I actually performed a few test recordings that way along with test recordings using the Dac analog outs.

To me, the analog outs sound much purer.

I thinkā€¦ it is because with the I2S connection going into the Dac, that is the way the combo was designed to achieve ultimate performance. And after all isnā€™t that the way we listen?

ozzy

Ozzy,

I am glad you found the sound you were looking for! Enjoy them!

What makes an HDMI cable I2S compatible with the DSD? From the discussion, it seems that Wireworld HDMI cables work with the DSDā€™s I2S input, but I didnā€™t find I2S mentioned on their website, so want to get clear about whatā€™s compatible and isnā€™t. Thanks,

Hey Highstream,

Almost any HDMI will work (probably version 1.3 or higher). PS Audio basically used a standard HDMI cable and mapped it to work with their I2S input.

Interesting discussion about some highend HDMI cables! Palerider compared a number of the HDMIs mentioned here and came to a surprisingly different conclusion (link below, post 9). It is note worthy because Palerider has a stout system and it begs the question as to whether HDMI cables are worth a $500 to $1000 investment or not?

http://www.psaudio.com/forum/accessories-cables-tweaks-tuning/i2shdmi-cable/

Clearly everyone has an opinion! Maybe Paul or Ted Smith will weigh in.

norton, that post number should be 9, if thatā€™s the thread you mean.

Last week I tried all the HDMI cables I had on hand (the PS Audio copper-clad and all sliver, a VooDoo Cable, a Purist Audio, a Mapleshade Audio, the new current PS Audio, the Arnie recommended) as my system has changed from the last time I tried this.

I kept coming back to the PS Audi 12 silver cable. . . it simply sounds the best. Too bad as Iā€™d love to use it for my TV. . . it also is the best for that purpose of any Iā€™ve tried. I am so glad I bought this when I bought my first PS Audio duo of PWT and PWD. . . they were marked down then and still expensive!

Since sticking a Jensen cable TV isolator inline right before the (Charter) cable box, Iā€™ve had a fantastic TV picture, even marveled at by the cable installers, but have found no difference in video between HDMI cables. The TV is a former top of the line Samsung F8000 and the $70 Jensen piece makes that much of a difference (http://www.jensen-transformers.com/product/vrd-1ff/). Iā€™ve tried Monoprice, Mapleshade, the current PS Audio model and a few other of the ostensibly better mass market HDMIs, although I havenā€™t tried something like the top of the line Wireworld. This is running from cable box to Oppo 103/203 and from there to the TV.

As for HDMI audio, Iā€™m a week into burning in a pair of PS Audio HDMI cables, which are running between the (modified) 203 and a DSD, with an HDMI-to-I2S card in the middle (discussed in another thread). After 24 hours with the card, the differences between that set up and the very good Snake River Boomslang coax have narrowed, but remain in transparency, a slight placement back and slightly lower volume (comparing is very convenient with the DSDā€™s remote). Iā€™ve also found the PSA cables, even new, are much better than the Mapleshade. Iā€™m hoping this new set up works out well, as I donā€™t yearn to deal with the much more expensive Wireworldā€™s (and shudder a bit at comments that note the latterā€™s greater crispness, a characteristic that Iā€™ve typically found unappealing, e.g., the Lightspeed USB).

Good catch highstream, thanks!

Lonson, trade you some jazz CDs for the AC12 HDMI! What length are you using?

The AC12 is the one that sounds best and that I am keeping, sorry Norton. Iā€™m using 1 meter as I have my DMP and DSD side by side on their own PowerBases, not stacked.

Does length matter with these? For short runs, say <1m, should a 2m or 3m cable be any different except for neatness? I ask because these cables donā€™t come up often and one tends to come across various lengths.

Thereā€™s varying theories on this. Some think that jitter is worse with HDMI cables as length increases. But then with the DMP and DSD being engineered for such low jitter I havenā€™t noticed that the length matters much. I had a .5 meter of the AC-12 that I sold with the PWT and PWD (second system set) I had and when stacked I noticed no real difference between the .5 and 1 meter lengths of the AC-12. Others have reported differences. Its hard to reach consensus among a herd of audiophile cats!