How to stream content to the DS over local network?

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Frode said OK, so you are certain that 10.1.1.4 is not in use already?

Have you tried using 10.1.1.42?

You have not used mac-filtering in your router?

There is NO router. At this stage all I want is for a static IP to "stick" in the DS network config.

The end point is MacBook Air connected directly to Bridge via network cable on a 2-device standalone network, with no router, and no other devices.

As mentioned above, the Fortigate router blocks UPnP by design, so connecting the DS/Bridge to the router is not going to work.

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I wonder if the DS software has been made in such way that inputting a DNS address is mandatory?

Could you set it to the same address as your default gateway?

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Frode said I wonder if the DS software has been made in such way that inputting a DNS address is mandatory?

Could you set it to the same address as your default gateway?


I just tried that, didn’t work…DS still reboots with IP 0.0.0.0

Is Elk still putting together Bridge-2 beta group? Try to get on that and see if I can make more sense of Bridge-2 than Bridge-1.

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Last attempt:

Could you try 192.168.1.4 / 255.255.255.0 / 192.168.1.1

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Nope. 0.0.0.0 wins again. I hope Elk can send me a Bridge-2 beta.

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brodricj said Nope. 0.0.0.0 wins again. I hope Elk can send me a Bridge-2 beta.
If you send him your info by PM, he might get you on the list.

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Just saw on your earlier posts that you have tried a lot of what I posted below.

Try [if you have not already] setting the DAC IP address from the web page and reboot the DAC. If the IP is still there, THEN set DHCP to NO on the web page and reboot again. keep the ethernet connection to the router CONNECTED during these steps. If the IP is still set, then disconnect from the router and connect to the MBA.

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So

Do I understand correctly that your final wish is to connect you MBA directly to your DAC by ethernet cable?

If so then there is a thread that explains the IP address relationship between these two machines and NOT with the router.

To do this they BOTH need to have an IP address.

If you put your DAC on DHCP and connect it to your ROUTER NETWORK then it should come up with a DYNAMIC IP address after reboot. You can then change the setting to STATIC [red] on the front panel OR to NO on the Bridge web page under DHCP yes/no.

Just connecting DAC with DHCP to the MBA will NOT give you an IP address. So make sure the setting is set to NO/RED.

Bridge2 will not be any different.

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Not sure if this will help, but it occurred to me:

Borrow a network switch or a router that can be set to bridge mode (or get the cheapest one you can buy, maybe used). Make an ad-hoc network consisting of the DS, the switch, and the Mac. This would (I think–but those more expert than I in networking should feel free to contradict me) give a simpler/more generic setup than using a crossover cable directly to the Mac. If this setup works, then you will know that the DS and the Mac are functioning OK, and get some music. Later you can work on eliminating the switch, if you want.

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The trouble is (as Gordon pointed out) that the Mac does not act as a DHCP server, so the Bridge must get (read; function with) a static IP.

I would recommend an Airport Express for this use. Not very expensive.

Set up a networkk and run a wifi connection to the Mac and run the LAN port of the AE into the Bridge.

I am using a similar setup, however I am using an Ethernet bridge with the PSA Bridge. In this case the Mac runs into the AE LAN port.

The AE WAN port is not mandatory for local use.

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gordon said
1. Do I understand correctly that your final wish is to connect you MBA directly to your DAC by ethernet cable?

  1. If you put your DAC on DHCP and connect it to your ROUTER NETWORK then it should come up with a DYNAMIC IP address after reboot. You can then change the setting to STATIC [red] on the front panel OR to NO on the Bridge web page under DHCP yes/no.

  2. Just connecting DAC with DHCP to the MBA will NOT give you an IP address. So make sure the setting is set to NO/RED.

1. My final wish is for the bridge input on the DS to work.

  1. Yes it does get at IP from the router when set to DHCP, but the Bridge can not be connected to the router for normal use (because the router blocks UPnP traffic by design). The crux of the problem is, it doesn’t matter what IP I manually set, when the DS reboots the manual IP always reverts to 0.0.0.0

  2. I know. The pic at post #35 hopefully shows valid settings for static IP configuration.

Can somebody else here try and set a static IP on their Bridge and see if it sticks after reboot.

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I have used a static for over a year now and has survived many reboots.

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I’ve used static IP address on my Bridge for a long time, first with the PWD and now with the DS; never had a problem with it sticking. When I moved my Bridge to the DS, I set the IP address from the front panel, although I have also used the web interface in the past.

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magister said Not sure if this will help, but it occurred to me:

… Later you can work on eliminating the switch, if you want.


Surely, all the network switch does in this instance is let the MBA connect to the DS with 2 straight ethernet cables instead of a direct connection using a single crossed Ethernet cabl? Unless it’s a managed switch that can be configured as a DHCP server. There must be some way to set a manual IP in the Bridge and have it reboot at this IP every time (instead of reverting to default 0.0.0.0

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rogerdn said I have used a static for over a year now and has survived many reboots.
What have you done differently to me to get the manually IP to stick? I have tried both the touchscreen and web UI and neither method causes the manual IP to remain after reboot.
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As best I can tell, nothing different, but if you can’t maintain a static after all you’ve done maybe there is an issue with your Bridge.

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for what it is worth I am having this same issue on my PWD with the IP resetting to 0.0.0.0 after reboot. I have the PWD direct connected to an Ethernet port on my server. I didn’t have this issue when I was using an Ethernet switch in line.

Maybe this is by design in this configuration?

cheers

magicknow

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Yes I’m using a switch too but both it and my NAS/Server connect to an AE.

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The bridge needs to see something that will assign it an ip.

the router set in bridge mode or a smart switch is a good idea.

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If you set it to bridge mode it will NOT provide DHCP.

You cannot have two DHCP servers on one LAN (or did I misunderstand the above post?)

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gordon said The bridge needs to see something that will assign it an ip.
Why? If there is provision in the Bridge network config options to set a static IP, when so set it shouldn't need to see anything to assign it an IP (because the IP has been set manually). And the static IP should stick after a power cycle. I should be able to give the DS Bridge 10.1.1.2 static, the MBA 10.1.1.1 static, hardwire the 2 devices together with a crossed ethernet cable, and they should be able to talk to each other.

It is no different to connecting my Kaleidescape server direct to a Kaleidescape player, with no need for a router or network switch. Both Kaleidescape devices have a static IP on the same subnet and they are perfectly content talking to each other.

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On the Bridge web page have you set the gateway to the same as the MBA?