JRiver


#1

Do I have any equalization control when using JRiver to feed the PSA DAC in the recommended audiophile settings. I can find the equalizer, but when I go the PerfectWave DAC device, the equalizer goes away. Any help would be appreciated.


#2

Not if you use the JRMC Media Network to stream to the DAC.


#3
Not if you use the JRMC Media Network to stream to the DAC.
As "rossop" said, the DSP function of JRMC are available only when the player is directly connected, say by USB.

#4

I was hoping to hear I had missed something and the answer was only a click away. I’d like to be able to get a hair more on the high frequencies, I feel I’m a little rolled off currently. Thanks for the replies.


#5

ncombs… I’ve asked JRiver a couple of times over the last few of years if they would ever incorporate DSP Studio Settings into the Media Network. They have no plans to do so.



It runs against the “audiophile grain” to do this but I too would like to apply some EQ & other settings to some very bad sounding files I possess.


#6

I agree and understand that it runs against the audiophile grain. For years I’ve had that satisfaction of knowing (or at least feeling) that everything was just the way it’s supposted to be, after all you could only turn the volume up or down, adjust the balance or move something. With computer audio we can change so many things, I guess I was willing to consider tweaking an equalizer. I hadn’t decided if making an adjustment like that was one you would talk about, or if it would be something you should just keep to yourself. Some purists could shun you for much, much less.


#7

I would just love to be able to make my lousy sounding files something approaching my very best digital files. Plus I really don’t care what others think. Right now I am listening to a brilliant vinyl rip of the Willie Nelson classic, Stardust. It’s a case of have your cake and eat it too! Can’t be beat IMHO!


#8

I think the issue is that the renderer gets a url from the control point . . . the server sends the data . . . and the renderer decodes it and plays it. I believe that applying DSP requires the data to be decoded already, which it is not when JRMC is handling it through UPnP. I am not an expert in this, but that’s my understanding. You can see that applying DSP to, say, a flac file would be difficult.



What really is needed is DSP on the playing end – a preamp with tone controls. There are a few around, but not many. I am using a modified TacT 2.2X digital preamp, which does have transparent tone controls – but I can’t recommend it, as TacT is now out of business. The Classé CP-800 has tone controls in the digital domain (the right way IMO), and perhaps there are a few others.



Maybe Paul will take his friend’s urging seriously if enough users ask for it and develop something. Even a simple tilt control can make many recordings more realistic – and listenable.


#9

I forgot to say, there is always the analog approach. For example:



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audient-ASP231-Stereo-31-Band-Graphic-Pro-Audio-Equalizer-/111254662734?pt=US_Signal_Processors_Rack_Effects&hash=item19e74b6e4e



I have tried one of those, and it leads to only a small loss in transparency. I think the loss is far outweighed by the improvements you can get.


#10

I had a nice equalizer years ago. I sold it years ago when I could finally afford to start moving into better equipment. I knew I’d never need it again. Who would of thought I’d be asking about them again.


#11

Nothing beats a great sounding recording but, like I said, it would be nice to be able to play around with the bad sounding ones. Since I put a good sub in my system I have been able to change the sound using it. It’s one of the best investments I have made. System dynamics have improved markedly.


#12

ncombs…maybe you could do what mike48 says & connect directly with USB.


#13

I’ve also added a sub and agree it allows you change the sound to better suit the room. Maybe that is why I suddenly find myself wanting even more control. I’ve never tried using a USB for input. Maybe I’ll try that also. From your previous post, Stardust is a great album. I listen to that one often.


#14
I've also added a sub and agree it allows you change the sound to better suit the room. Maybe that is why I suddenly find myself wanting even more control. I've never tried using a USB for input. Maybe I'll try that also. From your previous post, Stardust is a great album. I listen to that one often.


I have the Classic Records 4x45rpm vinyl rip. It's sound is outstanding!