My very personal, subjective but undogmatic and honest High End Munich 2022 show report

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Even when I heard some brands several times bad, it doesn’t mean I give up. I try it each time again. This time I had the following pleasant surprises in this regard.
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I tried countless times but never heard a B&W speaker deliver a kind of palpable soundstage. Especially not with the typical MAC gear but also not with the typical Classé gear. This time in this well treated room with speakers far from the front wall they did. Still no really great sound for other reasons, lacks of and characteristics for me, but I first time heard, it’s really possible to get a convincing soundstage from them.


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At the shows before this one I heard awful performances of the larger installations from Cessaro in an insanely expensive gear environment. I really had no clue what they want to sell there. This time the smaller ones sounded ok.

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I see Thomas Mayer wasn’t listed as a manufacturer, he usually has a room in Munich, I’ve always been intrigued with his tube equipment but never heard any.

Did you see / hear Avantgarde Electro Acoustic? Above my budget, but I remember enjoying listening to them once.

I would have liked to visit Thorens and Pro-Ject. Love the TD1601 + TAS 1600, Proj-Ject phono pre-amps are balanced and a bargain. Also love the Pro-Ject CD Box RS2 CD transport.

The better ones (but still no airy 3D magic)
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I had to hear this. A crazy looking (my wife said „hotel vac“) wide dispersion AMT driver fitted speaker, impressing by the first look. Sounded very transparent and fast tonalitywise but also too sterile in the AMT coverage and couldn’t impress me beyond a just partly very good sound.

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This setup nearly landed in the disappointing section, although consisting of just extremely well regarded equipment. It sounded good, but was still Hifi sound for me. No 3D, not much air, no illusion, no magic, just good „sound“.


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This one sounded convincing with a 3D soundstage. Much less spectacular looks than a few previous ones, but better results. Not absolute top range at all, but fun.


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I tried MBL countless times (at shows only). So far rooms were too crowded, my seat too bad to write about less impressing experiences. I thought they must sound better than I heard them so far. I wanted to understand them.

This time only a few listeners were in the room, I had the best middle seat, listened for several tracks and could get a better impression. 3 negative impressions remained, but I now better understood what they can do. The still negative impressions were a not well integrated, rather boomy bass (inspite of calibrated room correction), quite harsh mid/treble character (there’s no ease) and only limited focus (for those used to non-omni-speakers).

What they do is create a certain quality of 3D illusion even without standing far from the front wall, not only in the sweet spot and this probably without too much tweaking and setup experiments. It’s not a sharp focused, but a little diffuse 3D imaging but I now get, that this is probably quite impressing especially for those who didn’t listen to a perfectly tweaked out non-omni setup so far and perfect for those who want 3D in difficult rooms or without too much setup work to do. Furthermore they certainly deliver what omnidirectional speakers usually do (for those who want that and can live with the side effects).

I will continue to evaluate them where possible, hopefully also under even better circumstances…so far a nice experience, I kind of understand better now, but nothing I’d want.


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This setup’s detailled sound I don’t remember unfortunately but it was quite good.


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This one also sounded good, but not as good as the involved equipment might suggest.


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Octave sounds always nice, not absolute top level however for me as it was presented.


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Audio Physic is no big Hifi but always images well.

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Also good, but rarely really well setup in bass.

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Fascinatinating as large planars are…with just their concept caused weaknesses.


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Dartzeel/Stenheim surely was impressing. One hears that there are great components playing in several characteristics. They land in this section because also here, no complete illusion was available. Still “just” HiFi on insanely high level. No question this can be further improved with exactly those components.

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You mean the Avantgarde horns as mentioned in my first section? Yes, I never heard a smaller one seamless and without coloration, but I heard the big horn sound great in one of my former reports. This time it was very disappointing.

Thanks again for “taking us to the show”

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I’m sorry I didn’t go to the fair with you, put a red carnation on your collar next year @jazznut

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Yes OP thanks much not just for the pics but also your impressions. Most interesting- refreshing to hear candid criticisms.

There is a lot of Hi-Fi that just doesn’t sound that great. Not crappy, but nothing special. And the best way to recognize is to have heard a ton of setups including some that sound really great.

You’re welcome…if you don’t mind the past, you can look through my other 2 reports, they were more detailled.

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Really enjoying this thread and the way you are posting in segments.

Echoing what someone else wrote: a great deal of money spent on a few systems that didn’t impress.

In a minute I will add another setup (Dartzeel) I forgot, to the previous section…but now…

The impressing section (the last one)
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Einstein this year introduced their new largest prototype speaker and it’s a revelation, ribbon top, compression driver mids, large midrange dynamic driver and large bass driver, separate crossover, nearly all way adjustable in the crossover (which is worth a lot). I think the bass is active, I don’t remember exactly.

They sound absolutely seamless, dynamic, detailled, fantastic. An example how good show sound can be with some care (I guess they are also well adjustable to rooms). Their placement was less to listen deep into the room, but I bet they enable this very well, too. Around 150k probably.

Their new record player:

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Boring for those who read my other reports…Living Voice is always impressing. A little bit less for whatever reason than the years before but still an extremely lively, transparent, airy, 3D sound by quite tiny speakers. This is realistic sound (with some compromises due to the size of the speakers)…but in terms of soundstage they sound bigger than all previous sections and more lively than most, too.


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Odeon is always impressing with air, realism and a balanced sound (notable for horns at least). This year with much less costly amps than the years before, but still very nice.

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The Zellaton/Schnerzinger room used much smaller speakers than the years before (on a lower level), but the whole setup and especially the active HF noise cancelling all over the room and gear, enabled an amount of air and kind of realism not present in any other room.


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This years winner for me is a room with speakers, which must have transformed out of a B-movie monster scene.
One only gets the full amount of air, 3D and realism with the aforementioned measures, but this was great anyway. No horn coloration, fast, seamless, dynamic, resolving, airy, transparent, levitating, 3D. Horn with something like an internal open baffle bass and attached ribbon tweeter, semi active.

www.aries-cerat.com
Aries Cerat Speaker and electronics.
I bet only few of you heard about it yet.


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The back of the speaker


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Finally…I don’t come from the horn camp initially. Horns usually sounded heavily colored to me and rarely had seamless bass integration. Not rarely really bad sound. That’s why I’m very picky when it comes to horns. But I noticed, the further my own setup got (no horns), the more the kind of realism, ambiance enveloping, holographic imaging and air I‘m used to by partly non-market available tuning for the whole chain, comes closest with horns in normal setups,often driven by triodes or OTL amps. And if they manage to sound quite uncolored with seamless bass integration, the rest of their performance is quite striking, too. Anyway I never had horns…probably,because the ones I’d take and which can also deliver a solid, well integrated foundation which needs a certain quality of amps, too, cost a fortune. I’d try it with those however, I even like the looks…if I could afford them. I don’t remember the price, but I think it was something between 100-200k. But there’s more…look at their bigger ones…

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The Aries Cerat set up was at Axpona.

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Unusual design good sound from what I remember.

Makes my copper foil wrapped power cables a beauty contest winner compared to the putty knifed covered paper mache look of the bell mouth of the horns.

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They’re 3D printed. Those speakers are just prototypes.

I paid a lot of attention to the Aries Cerat speakers at Axpona. The room was small and crowded so I didn’t get to hear them at their best. I looked them over inside and out. They are high on the list of odd looking speakers. Can’t imagine getting wife acceptance for those. No.

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I am all for getting “outside the box” and letting “form follow function” but this aesthetic is lost on me. Truth be told, however, I specifically listen to music in very low light, often with my eyes closed. Under theses conditions I shouldn’t be such a hard ass about design…but I am.

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I fully understand. Form follows function is important to me. But even I have limits. My current speakers have a very strange form that I quite enjoy. If they looked like normal box speakers but sounded the way they do I wouldn’t be sad. But I don’t think normal looking speakers sound like mine do. Another brand that I quite enjoy also look odd, Estelons, have similar traits to my Vivids. I was not surprised when I connected in a big way to their sound. I think the FR30’s are a bit on the odd side, looks wise. But again, I like how they sound.

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Is your car compatible?

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Yeah… :wink:

WAF → no
Prototypes → no, they are in a catalog
Aesthetically problematic for most → you bet

The Estelons I also heard at a few shows and liked…they just never sounded as seamless as e.g. the Vivids to me. It seems their low positioned and mighty bass drivers are not so easy to dial in with the show rooms.

With horns there’s still a certain skepticism in me that there’s some music quite unlistenable due to colorations…I would have to listen a lot through before buying. Fortunately I’m not in this situation :wink:

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