New Octave release (Temporary Circumstances)

Welcome Jessica!

Very cool! Thank you, Jessica!

And welcome!

Hi,

I’ve recently bought the Audiophiles Reference download (very useful, thanks Paul and everyone who helped make it) and I absolutely adore the track ā€œWhat I amā€, especially the striped back version. I notice neither are listed on the Temporary Circumstances album, are there any plans to add it or release it in the near future?

Cheers

Paul, did you finally build, use and offer this interface on the market?

The vinyl pressing arrived this evening. Looking forward to listening over the weekend.

Just dropped the needle on the 45RPM pressing, and it’s simply amazing! It’s like I’m right in the studio with the band! Excellent music on very, very good vinyl. Make sure to order one of these before they are gone!

Great job to everyone at Octave, keep it up and keep it coming!

Thank you! We are very proud of our vinyl. Definitely worth the price of admission. We will probably move to 33 1/3 for newer releases as that’s what people are asking for and there’s no sonic penalty.

Paul McGowan | CEO800-PSAUDIO
Boulder, Colorado

The pressing is perfect. I just have one, but that is. Rare nowadays even from premier pressing plants.

I would prefer 45 RPM and think there’s always a difference, especially but not only with dynamic music…but if you can sell more as 33 RPM as the customers really prefer that…it seems it has to be like that. Glad I got the Mervine as 45.

Agree this pressing is fantastic. Sitting here with a cup of coffee, I just had a personal live performance in my music room. Thank you @Paul for providing the album on vinyl.

Thanks. There’s a magic vinyl captures that somehow just sounds amazing. We’ve not done anything to the original DSD master that would explain this, just made a perfect transfer and Bam! Magic.

I have to say I’m with @jazznut on the 33 1/3 vs RPM move for newer releases. In case @Paul was testing the waters here, I would urge a blind test between the same album mastered for 33 1/3 and 45 RPM. Every time I’ve had the rare opportunity to do that test with the same exact release, the 45 RPM version always had the sonic edge over its 33 1/3 RPM brother. The last blind test a group of us did was to do a A/B listening session of the 2014 Analogue Productions Stevie Ray Vaughan’s Texas Hurricane box set where no-one but the person dropping the needle knew what speed it was, and everyone in our small group always picked the 45 RPM as the one that sounded better. I do understand that there are many factors at play with this observation, one being we had no way to know when each LP was pressed and in what spot of what I imagine to be 1500 runs per stamper that each of the albums were done, but I have to assume between the 6 albums in this set at least one (or more) of the 33 1/3 RPM versions would have had the ā€œstamperā€ edge to it’s 45 RPM sibling. I also understand that if Octave continues to limit the pressings and continue to use the same process to produce that pressing, it will definitely be the best 33 1/3 RPM it can be.
I also understand too if we, the 45RPM crowd, are in the minority and more customers are just as passionate for advocating the 33 1/3 RPM versions, or want to flip the vinyl less when playing, pay less for the release as you may only need to have a single LP for the album vs always and forever needing 2+ LP’s for a 45 RPM version or even that the average listener, even the most avid listers, may not hold that subtle differences are that important to them as long as it still sounds very good on their systems. For me though, the thought of being able to listen to an album in its best possible sonic reproduction, or what I perceive to be it’s best, will push me to continue to be a fan and advocate for 45RPM releases.

I am new to vinyl but I do find 45rpm always sound better than the 33 1/3rpm version. People want the 33 1/3 rpm probably because they are cheaper and people don’t want to walk to their table as frequent.

I sure hope they don’t go to 33 1/3 rpm. I replaced most of my 33 1/3 rpm records with 45 rpm’s mainly because the 45 rpm’s sound much better. I would never buy another 33 1/3 rpm record. I rather go digital instead as far as SQ is concern. When I play vinyl, convenience is not my concern. SQ is why I do vinyl.

Perhaps that’s true. It won’t be cheaper and we will make sure it sounds as good. The reason 45 rpm is sometimes used is because you can get more groove width. However, when we do a cutting we make sure to get the same groove width for the dynamic parts regardless of speed. If the material were to demand more groove width than is possible we’d switch to 45.

There’s more than groove width. The pure speed difference leads to less distortion and various other positive effects, too.

But I’m with you, I think we don’t need any folk singer in 45 RPM. The more dynamic and full range music yes.

Just to be difficult​:cowboy_hat_face: While I appreciate the SQ of the 45’s I have, all the getting up and down kind of harshes my musical mellow. If it is a familiar album, you expect that next track to start, and…yet another leadout groove.:no_good_man:t2: Four or five sides to listen to a two-sided rekkid? Definitely for the hardcore.

This is not to say that I don’t think they should be made or offered. Just as I don’t think an album should only be offered in 45rpm.

Yes, it’s sometimes difficult to decide when both is offered. For me it depends how I listen to that music. If it’s a record I tend to hear all through and sometimes also in background, I also buy the 33 RPM if available or a different 33 mastering. If it’s a more demanding record, I prefer the best SQ and then the 45 is enough and ok to switch sides more often.

The Mervine is definitely in the 45 RPM category for me.