In the case of the subwoofer, we use a DSP and so all processing (for EQ, crossover, delay, roomEQ etc.) are all done digitally. The wireless receiver in the subwoofer amp goes digitally into the DSP so there’s still only one AD/DA conversion either way.
Interesting. I use Convolution filter in Roon. How would that DSP work if DSP/Room correction is done by another piece of equipment up stream? particularly the xover. you still need that set and it would be nice to defeat that DSP in sub but have xover still done. Not sure if I am explaining what I am thinking in my head.
Well, the DSP is for the non-user facing performance aspects of the sub (factory EQ, limiting and “manufacturers performance settings” are applied in the DSP firmware on our side.
There are also user accessible DSP setting in the phone app for the sub so you can apply 2nd order bi-quad type filters (parametric EQ, shelving, etc.) and delay/phase controls in the app. There are none of these enabled by default but if you wanted to generate filters in REW or something and enter them into the phone app, you could. Even if you are doing a separate convolution FIR filter based roomEQ solution, I think having a sub with built-in IIR filters is good because you can use those filters, delay/phase etc. to align an array of subs (if you are doing multi-sub) and then use your digital room correction on top of that, treating that array as a single virtual sub or a part of the stereo signal (because it has already been optimized spatially as well)
If you need some help testing send a few beta units my way. Maybe even six pack. ![]()
Any notion of where the pricing would be just yet?
I just added A REL Airship II wireless adapter which is supposed to have a latency of 15-20 milliseconds, so 2 milliseconds is way below that.
The little KEF sub we have in the bedroom has a 17ms latency, according to the published specs.
@bstanwick Coincidentally, I was just looking at the Airship II on REL’s site this morning. Looks like a great product.
Technically the latency of the WiSA HT version we’re using is 2.6 ms fixed (at 96 kHz) and then around a millisecond for the A/D D/A. Still, it is very low and will not cause the audible delay issues that some other wireless sub kits can cause in an analog system where the mains cannot be delayed.
Because of how the grilles are oriented on the sub, even numbers of subs look best for stacking, unless you don’t mind seeing the woofers “in the nude” without the grilles.
I’ll be talking in a video about stacking (doubling the output) versus distributing subs throughout the room (multi-sub optimization). Of course, with enough subs, you could do both!
We’re trying to be as competitive as possible with the price on these, as subwoofers are a very challenging market.
We are pretty set on the pricing and the subs will be $2749 each or $4999 per pair. Paul has always recommended multiple subs and we wanted to try to help encourage that for people.
For accessories, we have a stacking kit with thick, line grained aluminum connecting bars, thumb screws and an XLR that are for connecting and daisy chaining subs together and that is $99 and the wireless transmitter (that can pair to as many subs as you like) is $199.
Very attractive pricing! Here’s the biggie, though - any colors other than black or white?
Agreed great pricing. @Chris_Brunhaver qoukd you say the sound characteristics is closer to RELs or SVS. I feel I know the answer.
Yes, thank you. Finally getting rid of the inflated trade-in pricing and just stick to giving best deal all the time. I always think the trade in program hurts PS Audio resale value, and thus stop buying PSA products new, hope this will remedies it.