Yay!!
I also purchased a P10 under the current “special” pricing - it has taken a few days but it is growing on me. I know my dedicated power lines were already quiet and stable voltage (± ~1%) but plugging in the amps and my Quad Electrostatics to the P10 has improved the sound.
Looking for a little P10 advice. Below is a picture of my equiment rack. I’m planning on ordering a P10 to replace my existing P3 (taking advantage of the big sale). There is about 14" of space above the BHK 250 (after removing the P3). Setting the P10 on it’s own shelf would leave about 2" above the BHK 250 and 2" above the P10. As you can see, the front of the rack is perferated and the back of the rack is very deep and vented (completely open at the bottom for 1’). As many here know, the BHK 250 runs hot, I assume the P10 runs relative hot as well. Does anyone see a problem with heat?
An alternative, I could eliminate the shelf and set the P10 directly on top of the BHK. That would leave about 5" above both the BHK and the P10 (I prefer eveything on it’s own shelf - the shelf that would hold the P10 is rated for 100lbs).
BTW: shelf above the P3 holds the power supply and some custom relays for my Rogue 99 pre-amp and needs to stay.
Thoughts? Thanks!!!
I think you’ll be fine because of the well thought out perforated front cover and the fact this setup is likely not to have too much heat to dissipate. Go for it.
Just placed the order!
Congrats!
Hi, I am using a PS Audio Quintessence Power Center on all my gear except my Bryston power amp, which is plugged into the wall. Not sure I could squeeze a P10 into my rack, but if I could, how big an upgrade is it likely to be over a Quintessence? And is there still a market for a used Quintessence? Thanks.
I can’t specifically help because I have never had a Quintessence. I started out with a P300, one of the first batch, and enjoyed that for some time until it died on me. I went from there to two separate line transformers, one for each digital and analog. Then I added a Duet to each of those in between the transformers and the components. This was interesting sound, but in hindsight it did constrict dynamics a bit and in time the transformers started to introduce an edginess that was annoying, and it never seemed better than a P300 to me. So in time I moved from there to a Power Plant Premier. This opened my eyes: this was a really rich and warm sound, and when the P3 and P5 and P10 came out I lusted for one of these and bought a P5 because I just couldn’t swing even a used P10, which was what I really wanted. This was a jump up from the Premier, was a less colored and more nimble foundation. And I loved it. Then this sale came along and I ordered a P10.
The P10 is the best electrical foundation I’ve had for my system. There is really, to be honest, nearly the same sound as the P5 delivers, but there’s a sense of ease and also stature above that which the P5 supplied. Top to bottom things are just a bit more natural sounding and it feels as if there is more headroom.
My journey with electrical conditioning and regeneration leads me to conclude that a P5 or P10 is a wonderful addition to an audio/visual system. It should, in my opinion, bring you more benefit than the Quintessence, but I can’t speak from personal experience.
Thanks, lonson, for the great overview of your power conditioning/regenerating journey. I would love to hear what a P10 can do, but the more I think about it, the more I realize that I have real estate constraints that would require a new rack to accommodate a P10. The P5 looks to be similar in size to the Quintessence (albeit with two fewer outlets) so it might fit, but the P5 is selling for $500 more than the P10 currently. In short, I cannot fit a P10 and I cannot rationalize a P5 at current prices, so I will likely have to enjoy the Quintessence for a while longer.
Sure, that’s understandable. I was able to fit the P10 into my rack which is lucky; I use a Samson Version 3 from Mapleshade which is quite adjustable.
Perhaps the P5 will go on sale one of these days soon, or a used one may come available. I bought my P5 used at a price that was hard to say no to. . .just over half price. . . keep an eye out! It’s a great machine.
I have a perfect condition P3 (3 years old this past Mar- I have the original receipt from an authorized dealer) that I’m going to list on audiogon this weekend for $1,200. I just bought the P10. The P3 powers my DS, Rogue 99 Pre, and an Music Hall Integreated (driving outside speakers) with ease. The only item in the chain not on the P3 is my BHK 250. Send me a PM if your interested.
Bootzilla said Hi, I am using a PS Audio Quintessence Power Center on all my gear except my Bryston power amp, which is plugged into the wall. Not sure I could squeeze a P10 into my rack, but if I could, how big an upgrade is it likely to be over a Quintessence? And is there still a market for a used Quintessence? Thanks.Oh, goodness, big. Really big. The Quintessence is a fine piece of gear. One of the best isolation transformers out there, but it isn't a regenerator. The differences are big.
Replaced my P3 with the new P10 last night. Had what I throught was a major issue but I’m now not sure what to make of it.
A little history. I installed my BHK 250 in March of this year. It replaced a Parasound A21. I had a major 60 Hz hum on the system with the BHK that didn’t exist with the A21. I ran through the obvious trouble shooting efforts and only pulling the ground plug on the BHK solved the problem (not crazy about this solution but lived with it). I had the BHK plugged into the HC (non-regenerated) Zone D of my P3. MutiWave worked fine (assume MutiWave on the P3 is equivalent to level 4 on the P10).
Installed the P10, updated the software to .41 and cranked the MultiWave to 6. Plugged everything in the same as before except now the BHK was plugged into the HC (regenerated) Zone E of the P10. Now I had a 60 Hz hum back. The ground plug was still pulled on the BHK power cord. Started to panic a bit and tried different configurations of power cords grounded/ungrounded, etc. Nothing stopped the 60 Hz hum. In addition, switching between sine wave and MultiWave triggered a safety relay in the BHK (power light flashed rapidly). Lastly, tried setting MultiWave to 3: hum goes away and I can now switch between sine wave and MultiWave without triggering the BHK safety relay. Good!!!
Last piece to the puzzle. I tried re-installing the ground plug on the BHK (with the BHK plugged into the P10). The 60 Hz hum returned (MultiWave set to 3) but significantly reduced compared to my experience with the P3 but still at an unacceptable level. I removed the ground plug! Finally, setting MultiWave to 4 brings a very slight hum back to my system. At 4, the BHK safety relay does not trip when switching MultiWave on/off but the hum is noticeable between tracks.
Power values from P3 and P10: input voltage 126V, input THD 1.5%, output voltage 120.1V, output THD .1% with MW set to 3 (.5% with MW set to 6).
Equipment: Rogue Super Magnum 99, PS Audio DS, PS Audio BHK 250, Morrow Audio MA4 interconnects, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables, Signal Cable Power Cords on everything but the BHK, BHK Power Cord is PS Audio AC 3 with ground removed (everything else, turntable integrated amp, home theater stuff had interconnects disconnected for the above experiment). Dedicated 20A-1P, isolated ground and dedicated neutral circuit with only audio equipment, TV and home theater stuff plugged in (TV and home theater equipment connected on line side of P10: not plugged into the P10).
Thoughts? I know there’s a lot of info but I carefully tried to be clear and complete. Thanks ahead for any input.
Wow! My P10 went through CHANGES the last week. At one point it was barely putting out any lower distortion than what was coming in. And for a while it showed about 5 times more incoming distortion than others, and my P5 never did; I live almost out in the woods and power never seems to change much. For a while unless I changed the Phase to about -2 to -4 transformers in my DS and PWT buzzed loud enough to be heard at the listening chair. And it got quieter and with less distortion after I powered my DS, Torii Mk III amp and CSP2+ preamp straight from the P10 and not from PowerBases powered by the P10. And almost no matter what the scope section was showing I got really enjoyable sound!
Not sure what was up with all of that. But for the last two days I have very low distortion at phase 0 and no transformer buzzing. Think this means smooth sailing going forward. And talk about clear dynamic sound, I’m listening very happily.
Just placed an order as well! 40.1% off was just too good a deal to pass up!
I don’t know why the Americans are hesitating.
If I were in the US, I’d buy three (even if I was paying in AU$).
My guess is audiophiles in the States are buying as well, but are not posting.
Whereas I’m not buying, but am posting. If I were, I’d probably be playing with new toy, too, instead. 
About 475 hours on my P10 now and wow, this was a good investment for my system. I find that with the P10 I can run Multiwave on 1 or 2 and not encounter the treble energy change that prevented me from using it at all often on the PPP or P5. And the clarity and the pace and the flow of the music from all sources . . . this is clearly a step up for the system.