P10 suggested connections and configurations


#1

I just bought a P10 and looking for some advice.

My system consists of following components:

Audio: McIntosh MA7000, MCD-500, MR-85, Lyngdorf RP-1, JL Audio F113

Video: Samsung 55inch Led TV, Media player, TV Decoder

I know advice is very subjective and my own listening experience will define what is right for me.

I guess I’m asking for a starting point.

How would you connect the above components?

Which components would you not power via the P10?

What configuration would you put in for the individual zones?

Thanks!


#2

Though the P10 will make a noticeable difference in video reproduction, if it were my system I would plug everything BUT the TV into the P10.


#3

Thanks Paul! I will follow your advice!

What about configuration?

I read in the manual that for each zone there are parameters that can be tweaked. Any recommendation on that front?


#4

No. The only parameters that can be tweaked are turn on and turn off times and methods. For the most part, all zones are the same unless you need to selectively turn some on before or after others, like turning the preamp on first, followed by the power amplifier. From a performance perspective they are identical.


#5

Under setup I can find MW strength and Phase Tune.

I can not find reference to these in the manual.

How should I use these?


#6

These are in the manual (at least in Vers. 6, which is available on the PS Audio website.

I’ve copied and pasted the relevant passages below.

Variable MultiWave: Since the introduction of the PerfectWave series of Power Plants users have had only two options for their regenerated outputs: pure sine wave or MultiWave. Now, with the addition of Variable Multwave, we've extended those two options to seven: pure sine wave or one of six MultiWave choices. Users are empowered to vary the strength of the MultiWave output according to the needs of the equipment and the resulting performance benefits.
MultiWave option settings are chosen from the front panel on the setup screen menu. The choice is labeled MW Strength and users can choose stregth levels 1 through 6. Each progressive step increases the charging time of the Power Plant's output waveform. Longer charging times, taking place at the peak of the Power Plant's output sine wave, lowers the connected equipment's power supply ripple, much the same way as increasing the power supply capacitance of connected equipment. Just imagine adding 50% more power supply capacitance to your connected equipment.
The original MultiWave function on P5 and P10 Power Plants is the same as Variable MultiWave strength level four. Strength levels one through three are lower strength waves while strength levels five and six are the highest strength levels of MultiWave ever offered.

Try different MultiWave strength levels to suit your system’s needs for best sound.

Considerations: Variable MultiWave strength levels five and six require more energy to be delivered from the regenerator in the Power Plant than the present single MultiWave selection does. If your Power Plant is already close to maximum power output or is working hard to make up for low input voltage, you may notice an increase in output distortion of the Power Plant when using Variable MultiWave setting five and six. It is recommended, in these cases, to stay with Variable MultiWave strength four or below to help maintain low output distortion to your equipment.

Phase Tune: Phase tune adjusts the time relationship (phase) between the incoming voltage waveform and the regenerated waveform. There are a few places that have unusual distortion which includes a very substantial time lag (phase shift) relative to the fundamental. In these situations the default setting of the Power Plant didn’t perform as well as it could. 99% of the time, the default setting (0) is appropriate and no adjustment is necessary. If your Power Plant is consistently delivering less than 0.5% distortion (THD) in Sine mode, you should not need to make any adjustments. Below are the conditions under which you might want to adjust this setting:

  1. Your power from the utility has extremely high distortion, over about 8%.
  2. Your power from the utility is typically more than 10V (15V for 230V models) away from your desired output setting.
  3. Your Power Plant is not able to reduce the incoming distortion by a factor of 10.

In other words, if your THD In reading is 8.0%, and your THD Out is 0.5%, your Power Plant is performing well. If your THD Out reading is 1.0% you may benefit from adjusting the Phase Tune. Please keep in mind that the Power Plant is correcting both THD and voltage errors. If your incoming voltage is within a few volts of the output setting, your Power Plant will be able to devote most of

its capability to correcting the distortion. If the voltage is 10 volts or more away from the setting, the Power Plant is not going to be able to correct the THD as well. So if your utility voltage is more than 10V off, and you are seeing your THD reduced by only a factor of 5, this is probably normal.
The procedure for setting the Phase Tune is simple. Experiment with different Phase Tune settings and see what setting gives you the lowest output THD reading. The optimum setting depends on how much distortion is on your power and what it looks like. Unfortunately there is no way to predict what it will be.


Sine or Multiwave function
#7

Thank you!

I still had an old version of the manual.

I set the settings to default and will experiment following the guidelines in the manual.


#8

You’re welcome.

The P10 is an amazing component, and very flexible. Enjoy finding your best settings.


#9

Probably a silly question: how important is it to get the phase correct?

The P10 has a little plus sign on the right of each outlet.

But measurement shows the warm phase is on the left. Is that a problem?

Our outlets are such that the power plug can not be turned around.

Changing the phase would require me to change the cables in the outlet in the wall.


#10

Hmmm. . . I don’t have an answer for that one. The default plug positioning works for me. I do know that phase matters, but my house wiring and the P10 seem to agree on phase. There are a few recordings I have that I believe sound better with phase reversed, for playback I now use the phase button on my DirectStream but in the past have swapped the speaker cable leads on one end.


#11

Thanks Lonson, appreciate you sharing your experience.

I guess my question to the PS Audio specialists is: does the position of the phase matter to the P10? Are you recommending to measure it and correct it so the phase is on the right on the P10 outputs?

Thanks!


#12

I don’t find AC phase important, so I wouldn’t worry about it.


#13

ok, thanks for the input!!!

Enjoying my P10!!


#14

Paul, what’s the risk to system performance from plugging an LCD TV into a P10? Would turning off the TV when listening to music midegate the impact?


#15

LCD TVs as well as most computers use switch mode power supplies which typically have extremely low power factors. This can challenge the P10 to work harder delivering a perfect sine wave but, for the most part, shouldn’t be a problem. It’s built to handle such loads without trouble.

You should be ok.