How’d it go last night? Were you able to get off work and give it a listen?
For the brief amount of time that it played, it was wonderful. But it went into fault mode again even when plugged into the Regen socket. Sometimes it was 90 seconds, some times it played for 15 minutes.
I talked with Mark S. and he spoke with someone in house over there at PS. Based on my serial number, they think it’s a firmware issue, so I’m gonna ship it back today.
Just so I’m brought up to speed, was this with the BHK 250 plugged into it or just the P3 powered up?
Sure - BHK plugged into regen on back of P3. P3 set to muktiwave. So with bhk running thru the P3, the BHK would only play for a few minutes before hitting fault mode.
Would it stay on if the amp was plugged into the HC zone and set to HC?
I went home for lunch to box it up for shipping and figured I’d play it one last time…of course it played flawlessly the whole hour…no hiccups at all.
I haven’t tried it in the HC outlets yet, but I will and post back here. Thx
Ha, of course! Well keep us posted.
(Your face as it’s working perfectly)
OK…face is still lol but I’m cautiously optimistic! I think the initial issue with BHK not working with P3 can be attributed to operator error. Initially, I didn’t RTFM, but after I did, I got the multiwave going, and the BHK has been rocking non-stop since 5pm yesterday. Of course, I turned it off while we slept, but fired it up first thing this morning, and its been playing fine ever since. I don’t want to jinx myself, but so far so good. And it makes sense since the P3 irons out all the voltage sags…
yomaha, that’s good news, but I wonder why mwave is needed to resolve your original problem?
Well after reading this, my face is looking more like this. Good to hear things are seemingly working well now. Just for clarification, you’re saying the MW has to be on for everything to work properly?
MW needs to be on for BHK to work consistently has been my observation.
I’m a total Regen noob…I had hit the DIM button on P3 remote just for kicks. Then to un-DIM I hit DIM again and the lights didn’t come back on. So then I hit the MW button on remote and the lights would come back on but only for a second. What I didn’t realize was that I was toggling the MW on/off with that MW button.
Once I read the manual, I realized that I had turned MW off in the process of trying to un-DIM the LED’s. Embarrassing, I know! But I’m glad it seems to be solved now. I’ve had two extended listening sessions that have been uninterrupted. And I’m very very happy with the sound. Thx to everyone here that helped as I fumbled my way to BHK glory.
HOW could putting a power supply, in front of the wall power, AC-DC-AC converting it, would make it “unrestricted”? To me, that’s merely impossible! Like if Amp needed a 1000 watts transitional power for a split second during and orchestra playing, how could the PSU quickly deliver that power, vs. the wall outlet, or even a filtered outlet? To me, regeneration could help clean up power nicely, provide a perfect AC signal, BUT it by no means could be “unrestricted” as it has resistance and power supply in-between your Amp and the wall outlet!
How could putting a water tower between the creek and your shower make the water flow “unrestricted” and at a consistent rate?
Absolutely ridiculous comparison, as water tower actually HOLDS all the water energy in it, and you can entirely disconnected the water from the creek and run water until it goes empty… could you use the power regenerator WITHOUT plugging it in?! NO! Do better next time!
Actually, it’s even worse, you HAVE To use a pump and expend energy to move water up to the tower, then gravity will release the energy back while water flows to your shower… that’s actually how some are proposing to store solar energy for night electricity usage!
Yes electrons are not water. It was not meant to be a strict analogy… it was to point you in the right direction of the answer… which is there.
So, your analogy was incorrect!
One simple example is the use of capacitors. They store energy and can release tremendous current instantaneously upon demand. This is, of course, one of the reasons why power supplies contain capacitors - often a good number of them.
Funny, I was about to bring this up in a new thread, but since hints are already here maybe I’ll toss it in unless @Elk decides we’re going too far off course.
I’ve been having a discussion along similar lines with my audio buddy. He is not convinced that regenerating the AC line is better. He does do power improvements - a dedicated line, a good power conditioner. But his feeling is that a properly conditioned 60Hz signal is better than a synthesized AC waveform coming from a box that actively interrupts the main feed. My observation was that, while a good conditioner can act as an excellent band pass filter, suppressing both lower and higher frequency junk riding on the 60Hz signal, it can neither guarantee voltage stability, nor reduce or eliminate waveshape distortion. He eventually brought up the aspect of dynamics, and it gave me pause. It sure seems like my P15 allows the music to sound like there’s nothing in the way, but is that the same as concluding the dynamics are unrestricted?
@Paul, perhaps your inside knowledge of the design can help us here.
Isn’t the job of your amp power supply to do that? Like the noise carrying over a line I understand. But the AC power conversion is the job of the Psu in the amp. So unless you have a horrendous electricity, it may not be needed. Bottom line, it’s about bang for the buck, effectiveness and doing no harm. Which solution works best may also be dependent on your own power source and equipment. Wish someone could take this challenge and do a proper A-B while feeding it different kinds of power to see real impact (lower or higher voltage, noisy line vs cleaner line, etc).