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We’re trying. Not easy as building our own mechanism for the discs is waaaaaay beyond our skills. We just play with transistors, tubes, capacitors and code. ![]()
We are going to roll our sleeves up and try one more shot at a new transport that we might be able to launch in 2027, but it won’t be a PMG. It’ll likely be a Stellar.
The drives appropriate for a PMG are no longer available. If this changes we’ll jump on it.
Jay’s Audio
As the owner of two full PS Audio systems from sources to speakers save turntables, I will add my two cents. Those of us who use CD’s (and SACD’s) do so for many of the reasons already discussed in numerous places on this forum, and not all are sonic. The reality is that the SACD format, regardless of its merits vis-a-vis 44.1 may be dying and it may be for much the same reason as the hydrogen economy has not taken hold: no good way to make it and no good way to store it and no one wants to work on generation or storage until the other is solved. Those still making SACD’s are facing a potential lack of demand simply because no one is making drives and no one wants a production line making SACD’s with such a limit catalog of discs. Paul, I think there would be lots of interest in a well engineered, low noise CD transport that could interface with PS Audio DACs. Of course, $9K might be a bit much.
MSwift, in your exact shoes, wanted to upgrade from PerfectWave SACD, DAC Mk2, and BHK Preamp all to the new PMG line as I could afford em. Planned to upgrade the Pre first, but with the SACD player having such limited production, bit the bullet, decided to get it first and put off the other 2. Very excited though, shipping today!
You may get lucky on the used market down the road though!
PWT II gets my vote
Would you go for a universal player for your SACD, since none is in production, so they will use a DvD instead?
I have a Pioneer CD/SACD/DvD player, so if I understand correctly, it is in fact a DvD that play SACD?
I am not sure, it is a keeper, it play well SACD, but only to the RCA, no sound from spdif? Only sound when in Red Book, and I have to put a Monitor on it, to adjust setting for SACD vs ReD Book, but it play DvD to the Spdif?
so from what I read a SACD is not a DvD, but a DvD could be a SACD? ![]()
Does new SACD on the market are DvD player in fact without playing DvD?
ouf, I am gonna get a coffee, my brain hurt!!!
One other idea:
Instead of the potentially large effort for PS Audio to design a transport, why not ask your previous supplier if they would license their design? If so, then solicit bids from various manufacturers, including those already making their own transport.
Contract manufacturing in the Far East can be adventure. When I worked for Prime Computer, we used a Far East manufacturer in the late 1980s for something (computer terminals?) where our device was manufactured on one floor, sneakers were made on a second floor, and something equally unrelated to these two things was being made on the third floor. Fun times.
Interesting perspective. First off, top load mechanisms are no more expensive to us than tray loaders. Same price. Our new supplier we’re working with has both and each based on a Sony mechanism.
We’ll almost certainly go with the tray version because it’s what already works in the PMG chassis without having to make anything new. And, there’s no sonic advantage to a top loader, so a tray makes sense.
Also, we have managed to purchase another 100 of the original Marantz tray loaders and will be able to release another 100 or so PMG transports sometime in the first quarter of next year.
Besides the Perfectwave SACD transport, I have another SACD transport that is a top loader, and I will say that I much prefer the tray type. I’m so glad to read that you say a tray makes sense for the next PS Audio product.
Question: the PMG transport apparently uses a different tray loader than the Perfectwave SACD transport and of course the display and its firmware are different, but were the audio-related portions of the electronics improved? I’ve heard that the PMG is basically the same unit put in a different box… not true?
I now have a Jay’s Audio top-loader. Always resisted the top-loader for ergonomic reasons in my audio rack. Now I prefer a top-loader primarily because I know the CD cannot get stuck inside. Moreover, I can use an after-market puck on top and/or use a Herbie’s Super CD mat on top (we audiophiles love our rabbit holes!).
Finally, using a Jay’s Audio transport, I am part of a large user-base. The fool-proof sliding door on top feels and sounds like silk. The SQ is superior to most, it is built thoughtfully and like a tank. The innards are modular, so if something does go wrong, the folks in Texas can diagnose over the phone and send the part to swap out with only a screwdriver. I am converted to top-loader.
A top loader is an adjustment. Once bitten now smitten with two, a CDT2 MkIII and a CDT3 MkIII. Each with the upgraded CD disc weight. So far no issues. I still have a Theta Data Basic plugging along as well. Tried a PSA CD/ SACD transport. Unfortunately it did not survive the weekend; back it went.
+1 for the Jay’s Audio CDT3 Mk3 transport. This thing has been flawless and sounds like nothing I’ve ever had in the system. Started with many basic CD players used as transports, then a couple of Theta Digital units, then PS Audio PWT (excellent by the way), then the Jay’s CDT2 and finally at the CDT3. Built like a tank and made a couple of adjustments to the equipment rack to accommodate the top loading, but worth the effort. No more CD tray worries and have the latest 3D printed/sintered “black” chuck.
Hey Kurt
Was the CDT3 significantly better than the CDT2?
Hey Ron,
In my system the CDT3 is noticeably better than the CDT2. One of the best $5k purchases for me.
Best,
Kurt
Not true. It was a new build entirely.
My experience as well, having them side by side for comparison. The CDT2 now has a permanent spot at my summer home.
I had looked at Jays in the past, but the inability to process hi-rez and DSD was a nonstarter. Looks phenomenal for redbook though. If my PWT ever dies I will die a slow death as well
Y’know, this may be obvious to everyone but me, but is the Jay’s Audio Lab transport guy the same as the YouTube influencer guy?
No, there is no connection. Jay’s Audio CD transports are from an Asian company started by Jay Ho.