I have had problems using WiFI with DSD since my streamer is 2.4GHz only - even right next to the BT SmartHub 2 router - wired fixed the issue
With my previous Orbi setup however wifi was solid on both bands
Thanks for sharing, @Job_Jalink ! I’ve just done some tweaks to my network with a nice jump in SQ
Thanks for sharing.
IMO it’s half an hour well spent for everyone!
(I’m an IT guy and an audiophile, so for me it totally makes sense)
As my ethernet network is all Netgear (two 10G unmanaged switches for me and two big ole managed gigabit switches for the bathrooms and the rest of the house / family), I was very happy to hear of the good results with regular Netgear switches. Was also interesting that a linear power supply would not make much of a difference for the switch. I had tried a Teddy Pardo LPS vs. the cheapo converter that comes with the smaller switch in my music room and it had not made a difference that I could tell. I was thinking of swapping the cheapo wee converter for a less-buzzy extra old LAN SMPS anyway. This encouraged me to give it a try. Thank you.
Hi @Paul are you able to send the AirLens music by using JRiver on a PC and JRemote iPad application?
Many thanks for your time.
Chris
Any network source that can communicate (provide the 0s and 1s) over Ethernet will work.
The AirLens will not bear/use any software of its own.
I like to think of the AirLens as a high-end version of the PSA Bridge Ethernet cards and the built-in bridge in the DS Jr.
— Not Paul.
Hi Scotte1, yes this certainly works with the current bridge, but does not work for example with an Auralic Aries G2 that I currently own, I just want confirmation it would work with the lens.
I expect you will be fine, but I am no expert. If something works with the PSA Bridge, then I believe it will work with the AirLens.
Hopefully, @Paul or others will chime in.
[BTW, my home network streaming method of choice is currently JRMC/JRemote w/ the DS Sr. and Bridge II Ethernet card.]
That has been my understanding all along. Where I have been making a leap of fate is how to control the AirLens. The Bridge uses MConnect, a crappy piece of software IMO. I use JRemote most of the time now, only use MConnect for Qobuz and that is a disaster. So far PS Audio has been silent on recommended software. Previous discussions have pointed out some of the available software, but not a peep from PS Audio. If I get the AirLens I will need some other software to use Qobuz. Can James or Paul explain what the plan is?
FWIW, my experiences with JRMC/JRemote, Roon (with Qobuz and Tidal) and mconnectControl (2.4.62) controller applications have all been good with Bridge I and Bridge II. (not really a fan of mconnectControl, though…)
I expect all of these programs and their accompanying “controllers” to work just fine with AirLens. If they don’t…“Houston (Boulder), we have a problem.”
I did not find success with Stylus software when using the Euphony Summus 2 server with Bridge II. They did not communicate well so I took Bridge II card out and used Euphony Summus as both server and endpoint so I could use Stylus. I really hope AirLens will work with my streamer because I know my streaming chain can be improved.
Therefore, I do not have great confidence that AirLens will work with different OS out there. It will be nice to know which OS would work with it so we can plan our strategy ahead.
I don’t know anything about the Euhphony Stylus software. Might it be the case that it is NOT designed to work with an endpoint unless the endpoint is licensed by Stylus?
If true, then I guess PSA will have to decide whether it wants to bear the associated licensing expense (I am assuming there is a $$ factor) required by Euphony and other market players in this niche.
You could be right on the licensing because Euphony makes their own endpoint too (with an endpoint software). In any case, it would be nice if PSA told us if popular software from others such as Innous and Aurender would work with it. We know Roon will work at this point.
As for Innuos OS, called Sense App, @Paul wrote a post here a few weeks ago. He said he would have done some experiments with the ZENith in Room 2.
At the moment I’m still waiting for his thoughts about Sense App+AirLens, if it works or not and eventually how (sonically) it works.
So curious… because I’m planning to buy the AirLens and to use it running Sense App on my ZENith acting as server.
You might try reaching out to Innuos to see if their music playing/remote software is “open source” in terms of whether it may be used with non-Innuos endpoints:
They have a link to ask questions about Sense here:
Nice presentation!
I learned a lot.
It’s been stated as DLNA compliant - the most widely supported consumer network audio protocol.
…or you could say the lowest common denominator…
So any software that says it can send music to a DLNA audio renderer should work. MConnect seems to be talked about most here, I downloaded the free one and it seemed to work fairly effectively on a selection of random DLNA compliant gadgets (and worked fine with LMS / Squeezelite ecosystem when the latter has the DLNA server/renderer plugin installed) the app was just not especially slick. (DIsclaimer - I do not have an airlens or a bridge II).
PS Audio is effectively outsourcing the software control side to the user and the “market” (how I hate that term, like capitalism cares about anything other than profit (sorry admin )) but I can understand why - creating software is a very different game, and requires quite a bit of manpower - seems to me the “Octave” server software effort, ultimately cancelled, was a learning experience for PSA. There are options out there, but it will take some effort on the part of a few users, before everyone else can then use their learnings with pride
Thank you very much for sharing. Fascinating to hear the results. Sort of places the affection for the Grimm MU1 in context. Bring on the AirLens!!
I don’t have nor do I intend to have an Innous product, but I was curious and here’s what I read on their site: Connecting Network Streamers – Innuos – High-Fidelity Digital Music Servers and Streamers
Here’s the text:
If you are using a music network streamer supporting the Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) protocol, you will be able to connect them to your Innuos Music Server. There are two modes of operation, which you can access by going to your innuOS dashboard via my.innuos.com or the Innuos Sense app and then to SERVER > SETTINGS > INTEGRATIONS > UPnP.
- Sense UPnP Integration: In this scenario, you use the Sense app to control your network music player, which will show on the UI as a separate player. This allows you to use the Sense App as a single app even if you have network players from multiple manufacturers and if you also have a DAC connected to your system. This allows playing both music stored on your system as well as Internet Radio and Streaming Services.
- Native UPnP Integration: In this scenario, a separate UPnP server (AssetUPnP) will be activated on your Innuos Music Server. You will then use the app recommended by your network streamer manufacturer which will find the Innuos Server as a UPnP Server. This allows you to play music stored on your Innuos Music Server to your streamer. Any Internet Radio or Streaming services will need to be configured and supported on the respective network streamers.
So, it looks you just need to know if the AL is going to support UPnP. But, I’d personally wait to see how the MKII sounds connected directly to your ZENith via USB. You might not need the AL.
BTW - If I were to buy a Zenith it would be this:
Not that long ago James or Paul said the AL will come out right after DS MK2. Now we do not hear much about the timeline anymore. I wonder if that is because they are figuring out which streaming OS to work with AL.