My understanding is Octave music records artists and distributes these recordings only. It does not distribute recordings made by others.
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Yes, that is what I understood. But Octave is going to distribute that music.
I am happy to buy music anywhere, from Octave, Blue Coast Records, the local music store(which is really good by the way) hack, even from Tidal or Qobuz.
But instead of the high res streaming fees, I prefer to purchase the music rather than listen to it for only as long as I am willing to pay the monthly or annual fees.
As such I am not too concerned that Octave Play and Player are going to restrict my needs other than being hooked up to a hardware platform. I did not mind that when I bought my Apple stuff. As already Apple convinced me that the integration of hardware and software development and production potentially provides the highes quality and reliability.
The limiting factor thus is the storage and the limited hardware. But hope PS Audio is going to release a Stellar option and by that time will have figured out a way to offer more options for storage.
The Octave Player’s rear panel will have multiple USB 3.0 ports allowing you to easily connect extra hard drives. You will also be able to connect to a NAS.
People complaining about the cost of streaming services. For the Octave server I could get at least 30 years of Qobuz subscription. I know which is better value.
A remarkably silly comparison.
But to pretend to take it seriously, a Qobuz subscription is useless for me and, thus, nearly any other audio purchase offers infinitely better value.
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I am sure PS audio has the signal/music quality fully under control for the internal SSD In the Octave Player. Hence my interest in that product.
Being dependent on external storage The major headache of external signal paths starts all over.
Also I want as few boxes as possible, I pay good value money for a complete solution rather than another bag of worms.
Having it all in one box as Innuos can offer has a higher value to me than the advantages of Octave that I mentioned above.
There is a lot to say for Octave, but it would have to tick these boxes for me in the first place.
After that I worry about the sound quality as I trust that Innuos and Roon play a high quality sound level already.
The one in a box is even more important to me than my dislike of the Roon fee structure and cost level.
I consider this valuable feedback from the market.Whether it will be taken on board or not is fully up to PS Audio, such is my decision to purchase any equipment available on the market.
Steven I do not complain about the fees, they are what they are for the major infrastructure to allow the whole world to stream and song instantly, which I find a remarkable achievement.
Just not for me, I like having my own server, CD and record collection that I get to keep regardless if I pay a monthly fee or not. Together with the collection I already own and like to listen too, I can buy 3 to 4 new albums on CD, SACD, Vinyl or high res file a month. That is enough for me.
I t’s a personal preference rather than criticism of streaming services. I am simply a stubborn technical guy that dislikes monthly fees. Quobus sells a remarkable collection of high res music, that I would purchase for download and store on my own server. I would buy (pay) that at the time I like instead of a being tight to a monthly fee.
External storage of music is easy with a server like this. Just get a external USB drive such as this one and plug it in. You can tuck it next to, underneath, or on top of the server. They come in various storage sizes.
Think of all the other dumb things you are continually doing. No go forth and buy some more Sigmas
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“A remarkably silly comparison”
A remarkably silly comment.
My experience EXACTLY on my 432 EVO Aeon music server, and it has a very efficient stripped down Linux core dedicated to Roon and only Roon. Still, LMS blows it away handedly. Frederik of 432 EVO spent his entire technical career working in the Linux environment so I am fairly certain this disparity is due to the inter workings of LMS vs. Roon - only.
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@paulpsaudio Wanted to ask you what is the format (i.e. directory structure) the music files are being stored? Is it a single directory with everything (meta data) stored in a DB or is it a directory structure that we the users can transverse?
Bob,
Im sorry. Im not “Paul of PSaudio” Im just Paul that set my username at the PSaudio forum. It may sound that Im Paul, the owner, but Im not him lol.
I think you can contact him directly from the website under contact info.
Thanks
P
That interesting, are you referring with LMS to the player/server/streamer software supplied as standard with the Innuos?
That’s a good question and one I don’t know the answer to. I’ll have to ask the developers. I know we keep what metadata the user has and honor it first. I also know that regardless of user metadata we do our own cataloging and ID of every track in the system and place that in the database. That way, the system knows for sure what all the music is and, at the same time, permits user’s to have their own artwork or descriptions. This is cool because let’s say you list Beatles under Lennon (for some reason) and place a portrait of John in place of Revolver. When you bring up Revolver Lennon’s picture will be displayed as you wished, but if you do a search for McCartney, the system knows what’s really right and the results will match.
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I’m trying to see if there is a way in the software to browse the directory structure. There was not a way in the software demo I viewed quite awhile ago, I realize that was not a fully functional demo. That’s why I am asking, I would think it would be available I have not seen a streamer, bridge, server software not have that functionality. Of course I have not used ALL of them out there ;))
My 432 EVO has the option of running a dedicated Roon core or LMS as the software platform. It sounds like Innuos offers the same option of running either Roon or LMS as the main server software. After spending a great deal of time going back and forth between the two software platforms, it became obvious pretty quickly the LMS sounds far better. But, Roon easily wins the UX competition. With LMS, I use iPeng as the control app. I also have Squeezelite which offers a similar experience.
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And LMS is free (demonstrating the advantages of open-sourcing of software).
Squeezelite is free. Jivelite is free, iPeng is, what, 8 quid one off?
Put together some hardware to run it on*, and the installs are pretty straightforward too.
What’s not to like 
* which can be as cheap as 100 quid or less, or as much as you want to spend.
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I don’t need more than the big letters on the cover and the cover art like what I get in my Apple ITunes library. So if LMS sounds better that is very good information.
Quite frankly, it does proof Paul’s point that software designed or tweaked by the manufacturer to perfectly fit the hardware improves the sound quality.
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To be fair to Roon, I think it’s important to point out that the Roon Core is not meant to be on a device that is attached to one’s DAC. That is because the core does a great deal of processing and is therefore quite noisy. Roon’s recommendation is for the core to be on a device in a separate room, with music files transferred to a streamer/endpoint that is close to the DAC. If you are using the Roon core on a server that is attached to the DAC, you will not get a good result.