Hey hello, i’m seeying some very interesting PS AUDIO SPEAKERS but here is the question, there is a lot of interesting speaker but the price kill the speaker.
Maybe the N3S is expensive, i saw a 15k USD price, NO thank you. But there will be anothers competitive speaker for more normal wallets?
There is plenty of ridiculous expensive speaker and yes they are good but again the price kill the speaker
I mean normal prices like 1k USD, 2k, 2.5k sounding better than the competitors at that price tag.
If you look throughout the PS Audio line, the number of products at a price point suitable for “normal wallets” (a category in which my own wallet would fit) are few, and are the result of trickle-down technology that first appeared in much more expensive models. This is just my opinion, but I wouldn’t expect a PSA speaker in the $1K-$2.5K range until well after much more expensive PSA speakers are made and sold. They’re not about to introduce an inexpensive speaker as an early model. Again, just my opinion. I could be wrong.
I concur. When PSA first started mentioning building speakers, we were given basically two “types” they were going to start with: The high-end AN3 (the IRS killers) and the Sprout speaker (early models showed a 6 1/2 or 8" woofer and a AMT ribbon tweeter). Well, that Sprout speaker disappeared QUICK (a mistake IMHO) and the AN3 design has been pretty much their main focus (their BHK speaker if you will). From there, lower and higher end models should appear later.
I mean 1k-2.5k speakers are expensive, 15k are just ridiculous, there is Brands such like bw, focal, kef, dynaudio bla bla that can sell expensive and ridiculous
Highly cost speakers because they have a lot of history making speakers and if you want to re sell one of them in the used market they will sell very well, but ps audio is the new kid in the Town, im pretty sure there is a lot speaker sounding very good under 15k but that isnt the only thing that you are buying…
For example I didnt saw any ps audio 5k amplifier in my City (ok, I dont know all audiophiles out there but if I saw 1 ps audio amp for every 5 MCINTOSH…), they can be good but there is a Brand with much history and feedback making good products, I mean what is the point? Sell speakers or show your speakers in hifi journals?
All I’m saying is that it’s not realistic to expect them to have a different business model for speakers than they do for their other products. The company has an established philosophy in the way they research, design, build and sell high-end audio components, and as far as I can tell, there’s nothing unique to speakers as a hi-fi component that is likely to make them do things differently. But who knows - maybe they’ll surprise us all.
We’re shooting for a $15K price tag for the FR-30 pair but because we don’t have the final bills of materials I cannot say that with any certainty. We’re also launching lower cost models from the FR-30 in 2021 and the target pricing for those range from $10K the pair down to perhaps as low as $4K the pair.
Actually, there were 4 speakers originally purposed; the AN1s for $100k, the AN2 for $20-25k, the AN3s for $8-12k and the Sprouts for under $5k. Prices and names have changed as development has continued.
The IRS killers were Arnie Nudel’s hand made speaker which were the inspiration PSA’s Arnie Nudel line of speakers.
Oh very nice
The 4k speaker will be a nice tower, mounstand speaker or small bookshelf speaker?
i wish a nice tower for that price or at least a nice mounstand speaker , also i wish the final material get lower and you can offer a very nice speaker for something like 3k
In your price range take a look at these Acoustic Zen loudspeakers. They are cut from the same cloth as their more expensive models…which are sensational!
Agreed. They actually have mentioned their “tiers” of speakers from the beginning, but we’ve only SEEN the AN3/FR30’s and the “red headed stepchild forever banished to the attic” Sprout speakers.
Well, in starting a speaker line, it doesn’t make sense to start with the least expensive offering but rather the full embodiment of your design ideas and components. Everything else trickles down from there. We have a full line of product planned and have been doing some work on this.
Initially, our first bookshelf/monitor speaker will somewhat more expensive than the original sprout speaker concept because we’re using the same tweeter (as the FR-30), low distortion woofer and cabinet finish level.
While there are a lot of benefits to the planar driver approach, it isn’t well suited to budget offerings (as the manufacturing expertise around domes make them hard to beat for the money at lower price points).
I have been looking at some single-sided planar options (no front magnet system) and these high strength magnets (along with the diaphragm) account for nearly all of the tweeter cost. Sensitivity and output (though about 5 db lower) will still be high enough for a bookshelf and I have a few other ideas on faceplate/waveguide designs to give wider/constant directivty. Going single sided narrows dispersion in the top octave (because of the larger effective size of the diaphragm at high frequency) but I have some techniques in mind to address this.
Anyway, while the current speaker project certainly isn’t for everyone, we have less expensive options and line extensions in mind.
Nice to see you have less costly option in mind, we hope those options will be good and we not seeing more cheaper speaker sounding better
The 4k usd what speaker should be?
Floorstand or mount stand speaker?, 4k it’s actually high, with 4k we can buy KEF R3/S400 and 2x servo-sub F12 RYTHMIK and those thing gonna sound amazing. For example…, i say that because 4k is not cheap.
But i saw some comments saying the lower cost speaker will be a planar tweeter and a woofer but like a stand mount?
More info please ! thank youNice to see you have less costly option in mind, we hope those options will be good and we not seeing more cheaper speaker sounding better
The 4k what speaker is?
Floorstand or mount stand speaker?, 4k it’s actually high, with 4k we can buy KEF R3/S400 and 2x servo-sub F12 RYTHMIK and those thing gonna sound amazing. For example…, i say that because 4k is not cheap.
But i saw some comments saying the lower cost speaker will be a planar tweeter and a woofer but like a stand mount?
More info please ! thank you
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PSA is using inherently expensive technology. The only company I know of using a ribbon midrange is Piega from Switzerland. They have been doing it for 30 years and make the drivers themselves. The smallest bookshelf speaker with their ribbon mid/tweeter driver is £5,000, and it was originally £6,200, about $8,000. It’s called COAX 311. Their line array speaker costs something like $150,000.
They introduced a cheaper speaker around the $2,500 mark, it does not have the ribbon midrange, it is a more conventional mid/bass and ribbon tweeter. There are cheaper alternatives like the Quad S2.
KEF have been based from the same factory for 60 years and have 70 years of research experience. Many companies have used their drivers, including Wilson and the BBC. Their current success is with a dual concentric driver called Uni-Q that first appeared in 2008, you will find it in the R3, Reference 1, Blade, LS-50 and LSX. They are are owned and made in China.
So if you look at other brands, I don’t think you will ever see a cheap midrange ribbon speaker, certainly not below $5,000. I was expecting the Sprout speaker to be like the Quad S2 with a ribbon tweeter and around $1,000.
For comparison to the FR-30, the Piega COAX 711 is much more expensive at $25,000, although it made out of solid aluminium.
Reference and blade line are made in UK, r3/r5/r7r/11 and bla bla are made in china, i have a Kef r3 speaker with uniq, they sound really good to me for the price ( 2000 USD )
Kef r7 floorstand is 4000 USD ( currently only 3000 in offer ), very nice all rounders.
, also i wish the final material get lower and you can offer a very nice speaker for something like 3k