Schiit Audio

Good Day,

there preamp have XLR.

Freya + and the Kara F, anyone listen to them with Ps Audio amplifier?

I need a transitory solution with XLR before going to Upgrade to Ps Audio.

This is a direct sale company, that is a +++, in the Canadian Market, Price are decided by manufacturer, not the Canadian distributor.

It is a better alternative, than the cloned product from China and that invade C.A.Mart

What do you think? for a Canadian, price seems more appropriate, until the market came back

thanks for Helping

I guess you could say I’m a bit of a Schiit head. I’ve bought the Jotunheim 2 with the multi-bit DAC, which I have been using on my driving sim nightly for around 5 years. I’ve tried probably 5 different headphone amps that failed to replace it with the only one that topped it being the much more expensive Chord Hugo TT2, which DAC and power supply are probably responsible for the win. The Jotunheim 2 lead me to buy the Vidar 2, Freya +, Loki, Modi, and Valhalla 2.

The Freya + is the only pure preamp out of that group. I liked the design of it and I thought I would enjoy changing between tubes and solid state, but there was not much difference in my system with the Vidar 2 at that time. I preferred the solid state, but don’t really feel the preamp was adding anything to my system. I’ve seen Paul discuss in his video’s how he used to think DAC to Amp was the way to go as it eliminated anything in between that could degrade the sound, however, he was shown that a good preamp can add soundstage and detail separation. I don’t understand how and Iā€m not sure Paul even does, but I’m not sure I was personally hearing much if any benefit from the Freya in my system, so I eventually traded it. At the same time, I did not notice any degradation from it when adding it to my system which is exactly what some people want from a preamp. So, if you are looking for volume control and additional inputs I would recommend it but I don’t think I would if you are looking to add flavor or soundstage to your sound.

I do feel like you get really good value with Schiit gear and it seems to hold its value relatively well. I did try a Topping preamp against the Schiit that supposedly measured amazingly well but I hated the Topping. That is when I learned that measurements miss a lot of the overall picture and matter less than I thought. The Schiit was clearly better than the Topping preamp, which degraded the harmonics to my ear. The Freya + also gave me the chance to directly compare tubes to solid state in a quick and convent format, which was good to experience when I was learning. Additionally, the remote was actually exactly what I like in a remote. Even with the affordable price point, it had a metal remote that was small, magnetic, and comfy in the hand. The Chord Hugo TT2’s remote is an odd cheap plastic deal at 8X the price and I think they use the same remote for the Dave, which they were selling for $14K.

If you are into modding, there are defiantly people out there modding these that like the results too.

I should say that at one point my Jot 2 did have an issue with one of the channels. I sent it back to Schiit and they sent me a new unit under warranty. I think they even paid shipping but I don’t remember for sure, I just remember I was happy with their service and it has worked for years since then. I do use it every night and have well over 1500 hours between those two. units at this point.

Overall, I do recommend them as a company as long as you understand what you are getting. They are a value focused company that gives you good sound for the money, but that probably is not going for the very best out there with exotic materials and a new innovative design, in general.

Gee thanks,

Well, I don’t like topping to!

I was in open baffle design [Still I am, when summer get here in tha north] and I was using a pair of the discontinued entry level power amp Schiit Rekkr. I should never sold them…!

I had the project to upgraded them, but the mono bridge [Vidar/Gallarhorn] on upper level only work with XLR not RCA like the Schiit Rekkr.

So I ended with a S300 [RCA + XLR]

Now, I just want transparency, after I have listen the S300 with passive preamp and hear the potential.

I need multiple entry for my TT [Ps phono stage/I understand what you mean when written about remote :slight_smile: ]

So until, I could hear each of the Ps futur purchase I could buy, and know the PDS for Canadian Market, I will only buy direct to manufacture, like Schiit!

thanks

Ps so not much a plus, having the tube option, so the Kara will do than!

thanks again for helping me!

Appreciate! live long and prosper,

may the HiFi force be with you!

Hi @vieuxradio - I had a Freya+ in service with my BHK250 for a while, when my BHKPre was out of service, and also had it hooked up to my M700’s in my office for a year or so. It performed quite well, and had a decent soundstage on my main system. As a stop-gap I can recommend it for sure. Good value for what it gives you in way of options (e.g. tubes, no tube, inputs and XLR) and sound wise. Good luck!

thanks, so the tube gap, worth it! ok

I’m a bit of a Schiit head fan boy also. This may sound like an odd idea, but if you only need a temporary preamp you might try one of their headphone amps. When you get a proper preamp you’ll still have a good dedicated headphone amp.

After 2 plus years of fussing around waiting for the right pre amp to come along, I actually and finally ordered a Freya+ the other day to drive an Aegir. I haven’t been in too much of a hurry because in those 2 years I’ve been using a Lyr+ as a preamp. And it’s actually been quite good.

The Lyr+ is single ended/RCA only but it would certainly drive the S300. But if you really want XLR you could opt for the Jotunheim 3. If it were me I’d go all in on the Mjolnir :grin:

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You might want to take a look at this well reviewed preamp from a Canadian company so no tariffs, VAT, high shipping costs, etc. Supposed to sound good out of the box but due to it’s design parts and tube upgrades are easy.

Good Evening,

Thanks

Should be sounding very good, it’s sort of Marantz 7 [1958 era] tube preamp modify!

Ebay, is full of variation of this legend, and AliEx to! with the 3 or 4 tubes

Already got one, build as a kit, but always some low noise when my ear are close to the tweeter!

and a good set of tube, cost the same has a Lyr+, that is discontinued and is on the last call sale!

TAD, marantz 7

For now, my focus is on Schiit, since I have a Ps S300, my focus shift on XLR and better cabling!

And the FR5, is also on my list, but nowhere here to listen!

I am waiting the Montreal Fest, in the hope, that I will saw the product and hear it!

@allan.thunes , the Freya+, is worth it, any improvement tube, no tube?

What are your impression?

there is version of DAC, that could be install in Schiit product, is it worth it?

I have a R2R FiiO DAC, that sound amazing, and an old Ps DAC III that the FiiO replace!

Thanks for the Help!

Btw: the Lyr and Lyr+, is on last call sale at Schiit

Midgard, seems to be replacement, without using Op!

But Saga 2, to run test and a relay volume, seems an affordable solution…

If you put your ear right up to the tweeter with any tube preamp or amp in the system you are going to hear some degree of tube related noise. Anyone that tells you they don’t is fooling themselves.

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I will sleep on it, and probably go with the Saga 2 from Schiit, to test my S300 in XLR.

So Far my 303, is singing so much, that now, I am questioning myself if i keep the S300?

to much infos, my brain :exploding_head:

:face_with_spiral_eyes:

Good night

must reboot, my head, CRTL-Alt-Delete in my bed!…

thanks for your help, appreciate!

I’ve not heard a Freya yet so I don’t have any impression. I am hoping there will be some difference between tube and solid state but won’t know until rolling some tubes. Clover’s description of not hearing much difference is not an uncommon comment.

As Clover also mentioned you can add a DAC card to several Schiit products including the Jotunheim. I had a Bifrost but sold it when I bought an Eversolo DMP A8. I can’t really describe the difference other than to say the A8 is easier on my ears. I wouldn’t say the Bifrost is bright.

The Lyr+ is on last call because they are introducing the Forkbeard version, which I assume will simply be Lyr F. The Saga 2 is a relatively recent update that will certainly do what you want it to do. I’m just partial to the onboard power supply products.

@allan.thunes Thanks for the head up!

@Clover the Freya+ with tube seems interesting, but like you said, tubes more for the show, than the tell!

it is a real preamp, I will investigate that!

If i go with what I need,

  • Dual mono block with preamp [like Gjallarhorn F or Vidar 2F], but, that’s not what I purchase
  • Bought a S300, surprise me, and definitely a keeper, probably better in XLR
  • I don’t really need a headphone output, I have a pair of hard 2 drive Fostex for the studio
  • A preamp with an XLR out is a plus
  • DAC, not really, technologie evolve constantly, so High end today is low end of tomorrow!
  • Dac Update, often, i call that a ā€œswearā€ technologie!
  • I listen mainly Lp’s with PS stellar phono-stage
  • I am ripping my CD 1500, so going for digital for lazy day with ā€œsoupe du jourā€ DAC.
  • My average listening album, is about 40 per days
  • I listen Album, not mix tape songs offering by streamer.
  • XLR preamp/amp give the opportunity of extra long cable, so HiFi on my side for convenience and Power amp near speakers!
  • I am a fan of huge block amplifier on the floor near each speaker, could not do that with the S300, but with the Gjallarhorn F or Vidar 2F

So solution, order a Saga 2 (i like the transfo outside, less noise) and a pair of Gjallarhorn F or Vidar 2F! and sell the S300 (maybe)

Why do you say you need mono blocks? The Gjallarhorn is a great little amp, I have one. But two of them are no where near the S300 in terms of power or sonic characteristics.

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in XLR a mono block/speakers! it a dream, from the 1970, when i saw a McIntosh per speaker!

This Morning, my Quad and my 1966 Quad, are as good as the S300

I admire Schiit’s work, and their approach to manufacturing and marketing hi-fi. I’ve never had a need for one of their main system components, but when I got my Stellar Gold preamp and found it no longer had a headphone circuit, I bought an Asgard 3 from Schiit and have been very pleased with it. I’m considering their Modi 5 DAC to insert in my desktop system between my iMac and my Audioengine N-22 amp.