Windom: Installation/Technical Problems

Does a blank card mean a fat32 formatted card?

Thanks. I tried it several times with Huron. I’ll try 3.00 to Windom next. It’s hard to tell if I’ve never gotten a good load, or if I just don’t prefer the sound of Windom in my system so far.

The last few would’ve been back and forth to Snowmass. The difference in my case, I believe, was that I had no HDMIs attached. I never used anything but SM 2.02. Snowmass to Good Windom is less of a contrast than Bad to Good Windom, which is what I experienced. It was like having a bad broadband EQ and phase setting inverted. The question now of course is - is this the “Goodest” possible Good Load? ; )

Yes, that’s the reason i figured you had to have a bad load.
I myself experienced a bad load and knew right away that something was completely off.
I think good is seriously Good and bad is seriously Bad, so there is no “Goodest” but just “Good”.

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Lonson, I had “talked myself into” that place, and Darren had even become convinced that that was likely. “You just may not like Windom”.

But I would say if you’re hearing any of these things on various recordings: flat image stuck between the speakers rather than fore and aft and to the left and right of the speakers; anemic midrange (which may be perceived as stronger treble and bass); strange, phase-like stuff/FR cancellation you can’t put your finger on, especially noticeable in the center (move your head L/R a bit), which may also take the form of the stuff in the speakers seeming disproportionately louder than the center…

At the SAME TIME as I was annoyed by these things (which vary with recordings) I was hearing: incredibly detailed high end; seemingly stronger, cleaner low lows (but missing some low mids, which could be perceived as the same thing) which were in some ways admirable audiophile traits - heard tiny details I’d never heard on recordings, etc. So I thought, “I guess this must be it. Maybe I just don’t like it. Or maybe I have to spend a bunch of money modding my system to make it work”. But I doubted very much that anything I could do to the system would “correct” the headache-inducing aspects of the sound. I was track-hopping, looking for “the magic” folks were describing, and couldn’t listen to a whole album.

Please note that I’m getting very detailed in my observations to the point that this must read like audiophile exaggeration. I do do a lot of this stuff for a living, both with video and audio. I’m spelling out my observations, putting the microscope on them, so yes - exaggerating for illustration’s sake.

To try and guesstimate the relative differences here, I’d roughly say that the difference in the negative direction between a Bad Load and Snowmass is comparable to the difference in the positive direction between Snowmass and a Good Load. Hence, every time I’d go back to Snowmass, I’d be immediately relieved, though I’d note that, yeah, with SM there was more distortion/less detail, etc. Though, that was comparing to an oddly exaggerated case of the sound. The load I have now doesn’t sound anything like what I mention above. Just sounds sorta like Snowmass on Steroids, which is what I would’ve asked for in an update.

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I don’t know for sure, but that is what i feel because the difference is so big.
Also Ted wrote that the problem must be a wrong parameter value somewhere.
I suspect that this parameter value gets “toggled” on/off by going from release x to release y.
So going from SM-3.0.6 to Windom to SM-3.0.6 to Windom to SM-3.0.6 to Windom does not solve the problem. The problem can be solved by going from x to y to q to s to y or something like that.
Or as you found out by going from x to y to x to y without HDMI cables attached.

I know…but with experimentation you will notice the good load is absolutely correct as it is really good.

Beware…I unplugged my DSD to move equipment and on reboot, the good load was lost and had to re load, but it worked first attempt going SM300–RC–WND

Sorta/kinda kidding, as I never noticed any difference between the prior loads, except with respect to how certain tracks sounded - not enough to say there was any difference between loads, until I got the one I have now, which was clearly different.

I then unplugged it and moved it into the other system, booting it with no card or HDMI’s attached. It stuck : )

Well…catch up, Antoine, and Be-Leeb! : )

Totally willing to accept the idea that my experience was very rare, as those for whom it worked first time (like my brother) - likely the Vast Majority - have been wondering all along What The _ My Problem Was. ; )

Has anyone who had trouble with the sound after a “good” load, run a burn-in disc? If so, did it help?

I run “Densen Demagic” after upgrading and i think it helped increasing the sq.

This matches my experience. I’ve not had a bad load until Windom came along.

Two questions for you Ted please:
Did you make any changes to Windom for the PC when you ported it to the MAC? Should I reflash it now?

No coffee, no sweets. I am on it!

I really need to get rid of that “DFU” entry in the Device Manager as we had discussed to no avail a couple of weeks ago. I know the Registry like the back of my hand. no problem to edit for me. Anyone else wants to offer help, great as well. issue is driver is not present, just place holder so I cannot obtain the .inf or .sys file names to delete.

Upon install of PS audio 2.0 Driver it states that “this driver is already installed on your PC” To continue click next. there is no PS audio folder in /Programs or /Programs(x86). The drivers other than this “DFU” are loaded in Device Manager and functioning fine. Obviously this is an issue of removing entries from the registry. forcing windows not to see that the driver is present. Allowing for s clean install of the “stream length” USB driver package. If it will install from the self extracting .cab at that point would be great and a final solution to this issue. However I am guessing that the outcome will once again be manually extracting/installing the files via device manager. sans, the “DFUUSB” file of course. hopefully this time I can snag the .inf and .sys names to remove from the file repository. I really need help on this as this is absolutely not how it is supposed to working! Other than that the sound is spectacular

Anyone willing to help me out here is with the utmost appreciation from myself! As you can see I will not be slowing you down either! I know where the power button is! However I may not be back here for a few days. In a very unfortunate incident I just completely killed a I9 Extreme, SLI machine! Truly, Thank you very much to anyone that is willing to help me out here! this simply should not be!

What???

As I said before PS Audio didn’t put that file on your computer. It’s extremely hard to talk some thru the uninstall process of an unknown program. If you search your registry for the file in question (without the file extension) you may get a hint about who installed it.

Also as I said the PC usb drivers and the code that implements USB in the DS hasn’t changed for years nor in many releases.

I can’t speak for what Apple has done with their drivers.

If it’s not obvious, the DS doesn’t have any idea what device is on the other end and hence no idea which OS.

Like speedracer, I have no idea what your first paragraph is all about.

Hi Ted,

Not a problem, just a question: Is there a finite number of times that an FPGA may have its firmware “re-flashed”? If so, do you have any idea approximately how many re-flash cycles this is supposed to be for the FPGA in the DS?

I don’t think you can “wear out” an EEPROM / FPGA from writing instruction sets.

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This may answer the question at least pertaining to Spartan 3.

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2chan - what they’re saying, I think, is that there is no Windom for PC or Mac. It is it’s own code, and you can use either a PC or a Mac to create your own card/drive with a copy of it, which may or may not have other random files on it.

A theory about prior FW iterations’ inability to load (as distinct from a sonically “bad load”) has been put forward in the past by PS engineering, that some Mac-formatted cards and USB drives might not work due to “this little file Macs put on there”. I’ve never heard specifically what that file is. I thought perhaps it was the “._” files, so I sorted out how to remove those from the card with Terminal, but that made no difference.

I use Catalina, new OS for mac, because of the new OS i can’t use Etcher because apple can’t control the software on iissues.The message said ’ Etcher must be updated’ by his developer. Just want to try the new methode of software downloading on the sd card. I wait for a new Etcher update and will send a message to them. By the way My DSD is working perfect with windom, had no software loading issues… but I looked at resources, the software page and came accros the new metode of loading the sd card. Which I didn’t know.

Ronald