One of the reasons I abandoned my EtherREGEN for the LHY SW-6 is the MUON Pro…
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How much more does the LHY SW6 add to the Muon Pro in terms of sound quality?
Is the consensus that the fixed cable goes into the streamer, and the longer cable (or other brands) goes into the switch? Luca has this layout I think.
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I have tried both ways. I have no opinion.
The MUON Pro design REQUIRES a Gigabit Ethernet port to function properly. It will work with a 10/100 port, but it’s effectiveness is drastically reduced. Apparently a Gigabit port has more conductors and the MUON Pro makes use of the extra conductors to be effective.
So to answer your question I would have to say the SW-6, with it’s Gigabit ports will improve the sound of a MUON Pro dramatically versus a switch without Gigabit ports. This means any switch with Gigabit ports will sound better than one that doesn’t. I just chose the SW-6 as it seems very popular around here.
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Ditto the killer change is the Muon Pro … seriously don;t put it in your system unless you can afford to keep it … One of the best upgrades i have done this year (gear aside) and when i spoke to them and got the LAN Cable i really thought i would be sending the lan cable back instead sold my Synergistic research lan cable there was significant difference
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I have a Melco Switch S100 in front of the streamer. Melco states that the 100 mbit ports are more musical and, due to the layout of the Melco circuit, would treat music signals preferentially, thus ensuring less noise and a better streaming result. As far as I know, Innuos has the same philosophy. To my ears, the 1 Gbit output sounds more dynamic and has a deeper low-frequency range. With the Muon pro in the 1 Gbit port, the result is expanded in all areas. There is excellent separation and resolution. The sound signatures are better layered.
Luca has experience with Innuos 100 mbit and NA Tempus 1 Gbit in conjunction with the muon pro and could report something about it.
Oh, a dealer said last week that the 100mbit output would sound better because it should cause less noise than a 1 Gbit signal. Now one could assume that the Muon pro greatly reduces this noise and thus the advantages of the 1 Gbit signal with less noise come to light. Just my thought. I find more dynamics with less noise for a more natural sound.
Greetings Andreas
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Very logical, Andreas!
I’ll start with having the router go to the A side of the etherRegen, with another A side going to the Muon Pro. I could also compare with the B side for fun, but fully expect the Gigabit connection to sound better. The etherRegen with Farad power supply should be less noisy than a regular switch (for starters), with just using the A side.
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Compare 1Gbit and 100 mbit and listen. muon pro also works with 100 mbit output. You then only use half of the muon pro. 100mbit requires 2 pairs of wires and 1 Gbit requires 4 pairs of wires of the ethernet cable. For me, 1Gbit seems to offer sound advantages. The muon pro revives the possibly higher noise of the 1Gbit connection compared to the 100mbit. So 1 Gbit seems to be the winner.
My streaming chain seems to be done.
The signal currently comes via an Ethernet cable to the LHY SW6, which is supplied with an Audioquest Hurricane Source from the Furutech Vault. Then goes with fiber optics for galvanic isolation without noise into the Melco S100 switch, which is powered by a Farad Super 10 power supply via an Audioquest Dragon Source. From the Melco S100 there is a 1 Gbit output to the muon pro with a Jcat Lan signature Gold cable. From the muon pro with the fixed cable to my Cambridge edge NQ. The muon pro and the Farad Super 10 brought me the biggest improvement. In terms of price performance, the muon pro is the winner because it doesn’t even cost half as much as the Farad Super 10. The improvement of the additional LHY SW 6 switch with fiber optic cable to the Melco resulted in an audible improvement in the image. I think that my streaming chain should be sufficient for now. I’m also considering placing the LHY next to my modem. That would be one floor lower in the house. The fiber optic cable would have to be relocated and the LHY would no longer benefit from the Vault’s power supply. Will there be a difference in sound for the better for me given the effort?
Greetings Andreas
I like the Cambridge edge nq. Although a Grimm MU 2 would mean the endgame.
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Wow, that is an extreme streaming set up!!! I don’t think I’ll go that far.
From the Uptone website, it describes the A side of the etherRegen as follows:
Even the magnetics of the four Gigabit ‘A’-side ports are special. We chose an RJ45 module that utilizes 12 transformer cores in each port (most Ethernet ports have 2~6 cores), and ground their center-taps through capacitors in a way that blocks port-to-port AC leakage currents.
I’m still burning in my Fidelium XLRs whilst on vacation, will follow that with the Muon Pro, and that may have to do me for a while. The Grimm MU2 is tempting for down the track.
Cheers,
Phil
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Yes. I sold my beloved Innuos PhoenixNET (designed to work at 100 Mb/sec) because I liked more the Muon Pro (working at 1 Gb/sec), sonically speaking.
Yes. IME having the Muon Pro I haven’t felt the need anymore of other “filters” in between the network path, other than the Tempus switch that IMO perfectly matches the Muon Pro character.
Yes. I prefer the Muon Pro with the fixed cable plugged into the Innuos Statement (acting both as server and streamer) and a Pink Faun Ethernet cable plugged into the Tempus switch.
Hope that helps.
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I’ll try different ways with Muon Pro System including replacing the cable with a different one, and I’m sure I’ll have an opinion 
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Andreas, your dealer friend told you 100db sounded better? That’s not what you told me before, and I better save that SmoothNet from the donation bin (it’s cheap relatively).
Luca, thanks again for confirming that the short end of cable goes into streamer. In my case that’s really helpful because I can hide the Muon under the platform of MU2.
I hope the Muon cable can equal Shunyata Omega, so I can sell Omega to save some for our next vacation 
But that would happen only if there’s conflict between their filters since Omega is clearly superior to any other cables I have tried.
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The rumor is the MUON Pro System cable is a bad thing. Buy the MUON Pro only, not the cable. A Stealth Ethernet cable is the hot ticket. @paul172 can tell you which one to get. The Omega is not nearly as pleasing as the Stealth cable according to @straightwire who tried both and settled on the Stealth. For what it is worth, I have the MUON Pro cable. I will probably buy the Stealth cable.
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Just bought a used pair of Magico S3 2023s for a very nice price (well, it’s all relative). End of the line for me. Pretty excited! They arrive on Sunday.
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Donald, some advocates theorize that 100 Mbit transmissions contain less noise than 1 Gbit. With the muon pro filter there is almost no noise and it sounds more dynamic and controlled with 1Gbit. Maybe I should try the Pink Faun sometime. Next stupid thought my power cord from the wall to the power strip. Is there agreement that this is primarily responsible for the sound? I need 1.8 to 2 meters. I currently have a Furutech DPS 4.1. I’ve been thinking about an Audioquest Dragon HC. A Furutech Project V1 is intended to offer absolute blackness and peace. I also noticed an Ansuz Mainz D2. This should be just as dynamic as the Dragon with a similar resolution and a more pleasant sound. Stealth Dream 20-20 could go in a similar direction to Furutech Project V1. Quiet and contrasting with a spaciousness that extends to the rear. Does anyone know the cables or are there any insider tips? Greetings Andreas
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Ahh they do make pretty boxes … Second Vanta in the last couple of months - on the Diablo 333
and P20 really liking what they bring to the party
Oh may have accidentally put a PZ 3.10 order in as well this week
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No MBL 101’s for you?