No, shouldn’t be a credit card required. I just tested. No cc required.
Ah I See, but it keeps asking and makes the impression it’s needed for startup. I’d recommend putting that whole cc dialogue/mentioning at the end of the trial period.
Also I higly recommend a FAQ section . As many people interested have similar questions like how can a software make a difference, when it’s using UPnP as other software how is Maestro making it sound better, what is the timeline of release version, Prism etc.
Maestro is now showing my Grimm MU2 as MU2 UPnP Render and music will now play. Yea!
Like others, my first impression is a positive one. It seems like a layer of grunge has disappeared on some albums in comparison to what they sound like in Roon. Others are pretty close. That said, it’s a pretty small size at this point.
Got it sorted Paul. Changed hardware to a Schiit stack (Freya+, Bifrost) with a iFi Zen 3 (via digital coax rather than USB) streamer. Running fine with no issues and I am liking the sound a bit better than Roon or Audirvana.
Excellent, David. Thanks for letting me know.
Hello Folks:
I got both PC and Mac up to snuff with version 10.4.5, the latest. I am really enjoying Maestro. The High-End Section alone is worth the admission. The SQ is the best that I’ve heard. Thanks Paul and PSA.
Is there a way to make Maestro remember window size and position on macOS? I can set it where I want, but every time I quit and reopen, it resets to a small default window.
Hi David, any chance you could send a support ticket on that and it’ll automatically add it to the list of feature set changes.
I’ve been having trouble with Maestro on a MacBook Pro (ticket in), where at times sound is not output to my Grimm MU2, then switching tracks or output devices sometimes clears things, but overall it’s not reliable or pleasurable for listening without constant interruption.
Yesterday, I did a fresh install of Maestro on a MacBook Air using a new Maestro account. This iteration seems to have far fewer issues, but…
There are still dropouts and music stalls on a fairly frequent basis. More times than not, the music just stops mid-play with the double-bar pause icon on the display. Hitting it once usually resumes play where it left off. (At least it’s not as bad as what I’ve seen on the MacBook Pro iteration.)
The Grimm MU2 is hard–wired to my modem which clocks in at 950+Mb/s, so bandwidth shouldn’t be an issue.
BUT… I’ve also noticed some of this behavior on Roon w/Qobuz. It’s not as frequent or troublesome, but it does happen.
So I’m left wondering, Is it a Maestro issue? Is it a network throughput issue? Is it a Qobuz issue? (Qobuz has been having their troubles, lately.)
If anyone has an opinion on the likely culprit(s), it would be good to know so that I don’t chase my tail too much.
Thanks!
Doubtful. As I’d posted in another thread:
Streaming DSD256 stereo via UPnP consumes just shy of 23Mbps network bandwidth, as expected (11,289.6 Mbps/channel) and as measured via Activity Monitor on my M4 Mac mini. PCM streams normally consume considerably less than their raw bit rates would suggest as they’re usually losslessly compressed via FLAC. I measured 4.6Mbps for a 192/24 Chopin nocturne.
— Chris
Thanks, Chris. I’ll rule that out, then.
With the latest Roon update I have not experienced any drop out yet (for a day). However, using Maestro the music seemed to dropout even more yesterday. I’m considering a reinstall, but I don’t think that’s the source of the problem. Could it be due to too many traffic since it is a limited release? I’m not a computer guy so just guessing here.
I had similar issues with Roon and Qobuz on my hard wired connection a while back. I have 1gig speed so I thought for sure it’s not network issues. Later I discovered that there was a misconfiguration on my main router that caused dropouts across my mesh network. Other devices were operating without observable issues but once I fixed the misconfiguration on my home network Roon and Qobuz have played without issue. Be aware that anything misbehaving on the same network can cause problems. YMMV
@paul Maybe you could add some „debugging info" in the app like HQPlayer and others do. So that when users face errors or other problems they can send the log / debugging info along their support tickets.
And @paul I have a quick question. I can put it in a ticket, if you’d like.
Running Maestro on a MacBook Air laptop, I’ve noticed that if I close the lid, the music will play for a short time, then stop. Same, it seems, if the display goes to sleep.
Is this expected behavior, contrasted with how we can start a long playlist on Roon and close the lid for hours without stoppage?
My sense is that Maestro is an app actively running on the laptop, and therefore the box needs to be open and active all the time. With Roon, the laptop serves as a controller, but the server/streamer just goes on with the stream and the last instructions it received.
Rob
I see the same behavior on my Windows laptop.
Is there a setting in the OS to say “keep alive”. I thought there was.
That sounds like a programming error of some sort. According to @paul, the DAC/renderer plays the stream directly from the streaming source without intervention. It sounds like Maestro tells the DAC to stop playing when the app goes to sleep.
— Chris
So if you start an album from local library using Maestro, what is the source? nothing telling it next song is… the queue is the software not the NAS. I get qobuz..if its connected to the device and it keeps sending the next song..yeah I can see that.
The UPnP server with which your library is associated.
Admittedly, I haven’t investigated the details of UPnP/DLNA media support and whether it’s possible to convey to a renderer a list of media to play. If not, it’s easy to see that the renderer would stop after completion of the current offering, but I don’t understand why it would stop part way through on its own without something telling it to. Maybe someone with a deeper level of familiarity than I have can explain it.
— Chris