Beta testers wanted for LANRover

rrwwss said
jeffstarr said Ozzy, the usb cable that is plugged into your Bryston , will be plugged in to the first LANRover, an Ethernet cable goes from the first LANRover to the second LANRover, the usb cable from that second unit goes into your dac.

The second LANRover also has a jack for the provided power supply. The first LANRover runs off the power from your usb cable.

If you go to the products page under accessories you will find a full description of what it does, how it does it, and how you hook it up. The LANRover has the ability/option to be hooked up to your network.

I was thinking they could have put it in one box, but you would then lose the network option and the ability to place the first unit in a whole different part of the house. Separating your noisy computer or Nas completely away from the listening room. It is quite versatile, and being optimized for audio it promises excellent sound quality.

Hi Jeff. I own a BDP-1, and the manual for the BDP-2 articulates the USB A connection(s) is an input. Will the USB port also function bi-directionally as an output? Thanks. Robert


Hi Robert, I was answering a question about the LANRover, knowledge I got from reading the info on the PS Audio website. I’m sorry I know nothing of the various Bryston products.

I did a quick search, if the BDP-1 is a music player, it must also have digital outputs, meant to go to a dac.

How are you connecting the player to your dac? On my dac the usb connection is an input, the usb on my laptop is bidirectional. As it is general use port. The usb connections on your Bryston gear is designed for specific purposes. You should ask your Bryston dealer.

a25105 said Paul,

Is the beta unit going to be the same as the final product?

Allan


Yup. Beta units are full production units. We just want to make sure all the i’s are dotted and the t’s crossed.
rrwwss said
jeffstarr said Ozzy, the usb cable that is plugged into your Bryston , will be plugged in to the first LANRover, an Ethernet cable goes from the first LANRover to the second LANRover, the usb cable from that second unit goes into your dac.

The second LANRover also has a jack for the provided power supply. The first LANRover runs off the power from your usb cable.

If you go to the products page under accessories you will find a full description of what it does, how it does it, and how you hook it up. The LANRover has the ability/option to be hooked up to your network.

I was thinking they could have put it in one box, but you would then lose the network option and the ability to place the first unit in a whole different part of the house. Separating your noisy computer or Nas completely away from the listening room. It is quite versatile, and being optimized for audio it promises excellent sound quality.

Hi Jeff. I own a BDP-1, and the manual for the BDP-2 articulates the USB A connection(s) is an input. Will the USB port also function bi-directionally as an output? Thanks. Robert


Oops. Looks like I erred and should have looked at the Bryston closer. Appears its only outputs are both S/PDIF. There appears to be no USB output - which means the LANRover would be useless. Sorry about that.

Good news is Bryston got it right. S/PDIF, while not the best output, is surely a better option than USB (if done right).

Mis- information. The Bryston BDP-2 usb’s work as both inputs and outputs. There are 6 of them!

I know because I am currently using one of the usb’s as a output. Others are used with hardrives.

Oh, well then, shut my mouth! The LANRover will work just fine in that case. Clever lads those guys at Bryston.

Paul McGowan said Oh, well then, shut my mouth! The LANRover will work just fine in that case. Clever lads those guys at Bryston.
So are the lads at PS Audio!
Paul McGowan said
a25105 said Paul,

Is the beta unit going to be the same as the final product?

Allan

Yup. Beta units are full production units. We just want to make sure all the i’s are dotted and the t’s crossed.

jeffstarr said
rrwwss said
jeffstarr said Ozzy, the usb cable that is plugged into your Bryston , will be plugged in to the first LANRover, an Ethernet cable goes from the first LANRover to the second LANRover, the usb cable from that second unit goes into your dac.

The second LANRover also has a jack for the provided power supply. The first LANRover runs off the power from your usb cable.

If you go to the products page under accessories you will find a full description of what it does, how it does it, and how you hook it up. The LANRover has the ability/option to be hooked up to your network.

I was thinking they could have put it in one box, but you would then lose the network option and the ability to place the first unit in a whole different part of the house. Separating your noisy computer or Nas completely away from the listening room. It is quite versatile, and being optimized for audio it promises excellent sound quality.

Hi Jeff. I own a BDP-1, and the manual for the BDP-2 articulates the USB A connection(s) is an input. Will the USB port also function bi-directionally as an output? Thanks. Robert

Hi Robert, I was answering a question about the LANRover, knowledge I got from reading the info on the PS Audio website. I’m sorry I know nothing of the various Bryston products.

I did a quick search, if the BDP-1 is a music player, it must also have digital outputs, meant to go to a dac.

How are you connecting the player to your dac? On my dac the usb connection is an input, the usb on my laptop is bidirectional. As it is general use port. The usb connections on your Bryston gear is designed for specific purposes. You should ask your Bryston dealer.


Hi Jeff, I own an early version BDP-1, and it has digital outputs for AES/EBU and SPDIF (BNC). Has a total of four USB A ports, 2 in the front, 2 in the back. They are described as USB Inputs in the owners manual, but might very well be bi-directional. I floated the question over on the Audiocircle Bryston board. Appreciate the feedback.
ozzymilton said Mis- information. The Bryston BDP-2 usb's work as both inputs and outputs. There are 6 of them!

I know because I am currently using one of the usb’s as a output. Others are used with hardrives.

Awesome…hopefully BDP-1 works out the same. The LAN Rover would be an exceptional solution to connecting the BDP-1 from the computer room Roon core (module one) to the media room Bryston (module two)…

I am on the list and have ordered the LANRover. It’s so exciting!

I have at least 2 different ways I want to try it out.

One: just as a USB “cleaner.” In this case I’ll just drop it in as described (unplug USB from DAC, plug into LANRover, etc).

Two: To move the computer as far from the audio chain as possible… Here I’d run the LANRover through my home network.

I’m sure the LANRover will live up to the expectations of PSAudio sonically. I’m really curious if it’s really as easy as described as computer audio is rarely easy.

artur9 said I am on the list and have ordered the LANRover. It's so exciting!

I have at least 2 different ways I want to try it out.

One: just as a USB “cleaner.” In this case I’ll just drop it in as described (unplug USB from DAC, plug into LANRover, etc).

Two: To move the computer as far from the audio chain as possible… Here I’d run the LANRover through my home network.

I’m sure the LANRover will live up to the expectations of PSAudio sonically. I’m really curious if it’s really as easy as described as computer audio is rarely easy.

I'm excited too! I have two DACs right now, so my dedicated audio PC will have to stay in the living room. However, if these live up to their billing, I can easily see running two of them off my audio PC, one to each DAC in the living room over my network with the PC in the back bedroom near the network hub. Oh, the possibilities!!

I am participating in the beta test as well.

Test one will be: iMac Roon core (in office)> LAN Rover> Media Room DAC Magic Plus USB input (in media room)

Test two will be: Bryston BDP-1 USB> LAN Rover> DAC Magic Plus USB input (both in media room)

Paul McGowan said
a25105 said Paul,

Is the beta unit going to be the same as the final product?

Allan

Yup. Beta units are full production units. We just want to make sure all the i’s are dotted and the t’s crossed.


I’m excited to try this product. Thanks for letting me in on the beta testing! I do have one question about the LANRover. Could I also use it in lieu of USB cable while connected to the NuWave Phono converter? As it is now, I swap my USB cable from the DAC to the Phono Converter with the other end connected the my Mac Mini while ripping vinyl. Seems like transmission would be reversed in this situation. Thanks again!

Adam

I am looking forward to the beta test. One of my test options is ethernet over power. I can run both modules at the computer station, both modules in the entertainment room, and lastly one module in each room using the ethernet over power (EOP) option. I listen to PCM flac files, and the EOP hasn’t presented an issue thusfar with my microRendu.

Paul, one question came to mind. Are there any cooling concerns with the LANRover? (e.g., can it be placed in a cabinet?)

I’ve sent an email about testing.

Some questions: At least in your testing (or in theory), does the LANRover replace the need for…

  • Separate power supply (Core Audio Tech Kora)?
  • USB card (JPlay)?
  • Aftermarket USB cable (TotalDac1)?
  • Jitterbug?
amgradmd said
Paul McGowan said
a25105 said Paul,

Is the beta unit going to be the same as the final product?

Allan

Yup. Beta units are full production units. We just want to make sure all the i’s are dotted and the t’s crossed.

I’m excited to try this product. Thanks for letting me in on the beta testing! I do have one question about the LANRover. Could I also use it in lieu of USB cable while connected to the NuWave Phono converter? As it is now, I swap my USB cable from the DAC to the Phono Converter with the other end connected the my Mac Mini while ripping vinyl. Seems like transmission would be reversed in this situation. Thanks again!

Adam


It’s a great question and I believe it should work though I’ve yet to try it.
rrwwss said

Paul, one question came to mind. Are there any cooling concerns with the LANRover? (e.g., can it be placed in a cabinet?)


No problem with being in the cabinet. Though the little boxes make heat, it’s not much.
highstream said

Some questions: At least in your testing (or in theory), does the LANRover replace the need for…

  • Separate power supply (Core Audio Tech Kora)?
  • USB card (JPlay)?
  • Aftermarket USB cable (TotalDac1)?
  • Jitterbug?

I can answer only a few of these. There’s no advantage I find using the Jitterbug after installing LANRover. Several of my friends who have LANRover still keep the bugs in the chain because it makes them feel better cool, or they believe it helps, which it might, I just don’t hear much change.

Definitely need the aftermarket USB cable between LANRover’s output and the DAC. That still matters greatly. The one feeding LANRover from the computer, not so much.

Paul McGowan said
highstream said Some questions: At least in your testing (or in theory), does the LANRover replace the need for...
  • Separate power supply (Core Audio Tech Kora)?
  • USB card (JPlay)?
  • Aftermarket USB cable (TotalDac1)?
  • Jitterbug?

I can answer only a few of these. There’s no advantage I find using the Jitterbug after installing LANRover. Several of my friends who have LANRover still keep the bugs in the chain because it makes them feel better cool, or they believe it helps, which it might, I just don’t hear much change.

Definitely need the aftermarket USB cable between LANRover’s output and the DAC. That still matters greatly. The one feeding LANRover from the computer, not so much.


I’ll be testing with both the Curious Cable from Rob Woodland (before and after LANRover) as well as the WireWorld Platinum (LANRover to DAC). I’m also thinking about getting a higher end ethernet patch cord between the two LANRover modules. Any thoughts there?

Scirica, you may like to head over to the Blue Jeans Cable website for a quick read on Ethernet cables… including test data. I will also be beta testing the LANRover with a variety of cables and lengths and would like to see if a poor quality cable versus confirmed good quality cable will have any effect on the data stream or resulting sound. Cheers!

Paul McGowan said
I can answer only a few of these. There's no advantage I find using the Jitterbug after installing LANRover. Several of my friends who have LANRover still keep the bugs in the chain because it makes them feel better cool, or they believe it helps, which it might, I just don't hear much change.

Definitely need the aftermarket USB cable between LANRover’s output and the DAC. That still matters greatly. The one feeding LANRover from the computer, not so much.


Paul, as to cables, the fact that the LANRover can be used over a network, is it safe to assume that the ethernet cable that is included or a common Cat5 of a couple of meters should not have an effect on SQ?

My second question is about the included usb cable. I see in the pics on the website it shows the 1m cable being used, going to the dac. Is that a quality cable?

My last question is how important is the length of the usb cable from LANRover to the dac. My dealer told me when I bought the used Benchmark Dac2 that AudioQuest recommended a minimum of 1.5m for usb cables. But now have changed their thoughts on that length, now offering .75m. I have two options, the first would be a 1.5m AQ Carbon or two use the included 1m. I guess what I’m asking does a half meter more have any effect on SQ? Of course I can do listening tests on the two cables, but knowing that using the 1.5m Carbon would have no negative effect would remove one variable to my testing. I’m sure you or one of your tech people have done evaluations on length at some point. Any thoughts or knowledge would be appreciated.

I am also considering a .5m Pangea silver usb, but once again another variable.