rogerdn saidiOS, so theAndroid is the 2.3.4 ?
Appearently the IOS version is different. I’ll check with converse digital and let you know for sure in the morning.
Dennis
Appearently the IOS version is different. I’ll check with converse digital and let you know for sure in the morning.
Dennis, thank you for following up. As of Monday noon, the App Store is still offering only 2.3.0 for either the regular [iPhone] or HD version, so that’s all I can get on my iPad.
Confirmed that Android is 2.3.4, iPad 2.3.0 on my devices, latest downloads…
Anthony saidCan you play Tidal from your iPad to a bridge?Confirmed that Android is 2.3.4, iPad 2.3.0 on my devices, latest downloads…
Dennis
I can play Tidal mqa on both mcontrol and mcontrolhd 2.3.0 on the Ipad, however not always without issues. Sometimes I hear clicks between tracks and gapless is problematic. Less issues with Android.
Briefly, thank you for the Bridge II update: sound is improved, and a couple of irritating glitches have disappeared. The work is appreciated very much.
@Elk
I wonder whether the fora would benefit from separate topics for mConnect, bubblePnP, etc.
Peter
I prefer using Roon but have gotten the MConnect MControl HD app to be able to hear MQA. I don’t seem to be getting MQA with that app either. See screen print. What am I doing wrong?
Peter said I wonder whether the fora would benefit from separate topics for mConnect, bubblePnP, etc.Perhaps. Typically however, the topics get mushed up (technical concept) again when someone starts thread on mConnect, another comments the problem you are having can be solved by using bubblePnP, someone else interjects a third product is even better, another starts talking about MQA, etc.
As an excellent example, this thread started as “BridgeII MQA update available.” Now see where we are. 
This cat herd likes to meander. It generally is best to wander with the herd.
Edit: Note there is a currently active mConnect thread. There have been others in the past, as well as threads addressing various players, controllers, etc.
Bob saidThe most common problem is not setting Tidal in the MConnect MControl app to HiFi/Master setting. Go into Tidal, select the hamburger in the upper left next to the return arrow, click on Settings, and you will see 3 settings. Make sure HiFi Master is selected.I prefer using Roon but have gotten the MConnect MControl HD app to be able to hear MQA. I don’t seem to be getting MQA with that app either. See screen print. What am I doing wrong?
Hi Guys
Ok how does it sound when the MQA works properly. Only one word AWESOME.
I don’t know if this is the correct place to report it, so am posting it here and the Mconnecct thread, but down at my dealers I was giving my MQA enabled Bridge 2 on his Direct Stream a good working over.
First I tried the paid Mconnect player app and while it seemed to work OK it didn’t say if it was MQA or not. Had a look at the forum and found the recommendation to use the Mconnect control app. That fixed the issue – the MQA albums are all marked with M now. However what we found was only some of the MQA albums were actually decoded – at least we think that’s what is going on. The rest simply display 44.1 or 48k 24 bits.
Here are 3 it happens on:
Michael Buble – Nobody But Me
Michael Buble – Nobody But Me – Deluxe Edition
Dianna Krall – Stepping Out
I don’t know whats going on here – if it’s the Mconnect Control App, the MQA decoding in the bridge or even if its supposed to be like that ie its meant to be actually 48k 24 bits. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this.
Like I say I don’t know if this is the right place to post this so will post it also in the MQA section with some comments on what we think of MQA. As I said its at my dealers right now – I don’t want to install it in my system until its all sorted out. Will be heading down Monday for further listening etc and can report further then eg we have have Mconnect Control on both an Ipad and Android phone but was mostly using the Ipad – it may be OK on the Android – we will see.
We could easily hear the difference between MQA and non MQA. To our ears the MQA was easily better. I even thought normal 44.1 16 through the bridge was better than before. Well done guys.
We just need to sort these teething issues out then I think it will really be something. Glad I bought the Bridge even though the MQA I bought it for took a bit longer than anticipated - but as a computer programmer for 30 years know only too well about software project overruns.
Further listening notes will follow as well as comparison to an Aurilac Aries that does its own proprietary MQA coding.
Thanks
Bill
bhobba saidHello All,Ok how does it sound when the MQA works properly. Only one word AWESOME.We could easily hear the difference between MQA and non MQA. To our ears the MQA was easily better. I even thought normal 44.1 16 through the bridge was better than before. Well done guys.
Further listening notes will follow as well as comparison to an Aurilac Aries that does its own proprietary MQA coding.
So far, folks who are using the Bridge for Tidal MQA streaming seem to be happy with the results, but I’ve been looking for comments on how MQA via the new Bridge II firmware compares to hi-res files via the Bridge and/or CD’s/SACD’s via the DMP. And to other stand-alone MQA enabled DACs, too, as a matter of curiosity. I’m sure it betters Tidal’s streamed 44/16 HIFI, but how does it compare to other media sources?
I’m using an Aurender N100H for streaming and file management. So far, Aurender apparently have no plans to support even a “partial unfold” via their firmware, so if I would decide to integrate MQA with my current setup, I’d have to buy a second DAC (not going to happen with the DS Sr in place), spring for a Bridge II and either have a separate channel and control app for streaming MQA (and hope that Tidal doesn’t go bust), or put together a music server/NAS storage solution to replace the Aurender. .
I do most of my critical listening from physical media and use Tidal for exploration/casual listening. If the improvement with MQA relative to physical media or files from a HDD is “noticeable, but not that huge,” I probably won’t bother.
Thanks …
best results for me on DS with hi res files in usb (jplaystreamer on pc)
As I read through this thread I see a number of recent upgraders have mentioned that they can’t find the TIDAL MQA files easily. In fairness if you are using a iPhone and MControl app the “M” (Masters) text indicator box is really very small and faint on the screen.
Whilst using the MControl app I have found that selecting the search facility and typing in “MQA” then returns with a list of all the MQA tracks, albums and playlists that TIDAL has, don’t forget to also touch the “more” button near the sub-category heading.
I saw there was some debate over the improvement that MQA may or not make a while ago, but to my thick ears Huron, 3.3.3 and MQA have together made a substantial improvement in presented sound.
Happy listening…
Hi All
Today I spent most of the day down at my dealers giving my Bridge 2 upgraded to MQA a workout.
Here is the bottton line:
Only about 20-30% of Tidal MQA in the Masters section actually gets decoded by the bridge. I have Mconnect Control on both my Android phone and Ipad. Its exactly the same ie the ones that work and do not work is exactly the same regardless of what I use. Also, and it did appear once before so whats going on beats me, I do not get an M for master on the android, only on the apple.
The ones that don’t get decoded display in Mconnect as MQA 44.1 or 48 24 bits on both Mconnect and the DS screen, but the ones that decode properly say MQA 24bits 96k or 192k depending. Like I say its just 20-30% of the ones in the Masters section that do that
I know this is unusual - your products generally work well. I am generally very positive towards PS audio owning both the BHK amp and the pre, but this really needs to be fixed before I can recommend it to anyone.
I don’t know the cause, but just to be sure the tech the dealer uses dropped in for a visit. So I gave it to him to check out - same result - it was not operator error.
Personally I am not too worried - I know it will get fixed, but I will be leaving it at my dealers until the problems are sorted out. A person from the distributor here in Australia, Magenta Audio, rang about another matter, and the dealer told him. I am sure you guys will get to the bottom of it - at the moment its not really good PR.
As soon a it’s fixed I can comment more on sound quality. Today I was listening though the dealers reference speakers - it uses the Seas exotic tweeter and each speaker has 3 10uf Duelund VSF copper capacitors - 6 in all - they are VERY transparent. Yes - I could easily hear the MQA sounded better, but strangely the normal 44.1 16 bit was thought a bit ordinary - an old Macbook running Audirvana was better (its too old to run the new Audirvana that does MQA so cant be checked that way) - but MQA, when it worked, was better. This was interesting because on Friday, through some relatively cheap kit speakers, both were better than Audirvana. Why - beats me. I don’t think anything can really be read into it now, but once the issues are sorted out it will be interesting to get to the bottom of it ie what sound better and with what gear.
Thaks
Bill
@bhobba That is very strange, if the bridgeII did not decode certain MQA files we would not have received certification from MQA. We also played all of the certification test files from MQA correcly. If the display says MQA or MQA. then the bridge has detected it is doing MQA.
I will look into this when I have time.
Dennis
Could this be a question of misunderstanding? As far as I know MQA delivers 24/44.1 up to (limited in case of the DS/Bridge) 24/192. When playing the ‘Tidal Masters ; New Arrivals’ the resolution varies per track from 24/44.1 up to 24/192. My thought is that whenever both mconnect and the DS display provides the MQA-signs it is a confirmation that what we hear is MQA for sure…
Dennis Kerrisk said@bhobba That is very strange, if the bridgeII did not decode certain MQA files we would not have received certification from MQA. We also played all of the certification test files from MQA correcly. If the display says MQA or MQA. then the bridge has detected it is doing MQA.
I will look into this when I have time.
Dennis
Hi Dennis
It indeed is very very strange.
At the moment it beats me entirely.
My suspicion is Mconnect - but exactly whats happening - I have no idea.
What I am thinking is my dealer has a DS Junior but its being fixed under warranty. When fixed we can try it and see what happens.
Does it work with Roon right now? I am not a Roon user but my dealer is (he doesn’t like it though). I could take my notebook down and see what happens under Roon.
Anyway I am sure you will do your best and we will get to the bottom it.
Thanks
Bill
bhobba saidHi Dennis
It indeed is very very strange.
At the moment it beats me entirely.
My suspicion is Mconnect - but exactly whats happening - I have no idea.
What I am thinking is my dealer has a DS Junior but its being fixed under warranty. When fixed we can try it and see what happens.
Does it work with Roon right now? I am not a Roon user but my dealer is (he doesn’t like it though). I could take my notebook down and see what happens under Roon.
Anyway I am sure you will do your best and we will get to the bottom it.
Thanks
Bill
No it does not work with Roon yet, that will be in the next BridgeII update.
Dennis
wijber saidInteresting idea ie it really is MQA 44.1 or 48 24 bits - but I have never heard of that - its 88.1, 96, etc up to 384 - not 48 or 44.1Could this be a question of misunderstanding? As far as I know MQA delivers 24/44.1 up to (limited in case of the DS/Bridge) 24/192. When playing the ‘Tidal Masters ; New Arrivals’ the resolution varies per track from 24/44.1 up to 24/192. My thought is that whenever both mconnect and the DS display provides the MQA-signs it is a confirmation that what we hear is MQA for sure…
What do others get when they try the first 2 in the masters section ie 4:44, and Lemonade - they didn’t decode fully for me. I think Banwagonesque works but 11:11 doesn’t.
If someone can give me some feedback that will be great and help in narrowing down what to do next ie should we connect Tidal directly to the DS via its app and see what happens.
Thanks
Bill