While my significant other is thinking Holiday shopping, I am DAC shopping
I would like, if possible to incorporate streaming with a nod towards eventual scaling down of my system. If I can eliminate a box (or two) it would be a bonus but not a deal breaker. The idea of a separate streamer/server allowing DAC only changes as technology evolves is also enticing
Current digital, historically for me not as important as vinyl
Dedicated windows PC - Fidelizer - Audirvana 3.5 - Tidal Masters - Matrix - RAL I2S - DSJ
Here is a snip of the list, obviously this needs to paired down to 2 or 3 at most prior to demos. If I go dac only I would add the Aurender ACS 10 server/streamer/ripper, and I can eliminate my cd transport which while not reducing the number of boxes would not add to it either
The Esoteric is sorta the front runner, today anyway
For the reason you mention - future flexibility - Iām in the camp of a separate DAC with you, although I do use a Lumin T2 in my office system and itās wonderful. The X1 certainly would crush the performance of the T2.
I have been waiting - along with many on this forum - for the DS Mk2. I have very high hopes for it, and am somewhat in your position. (Iām streaming from a Grimm MU-1, quite happily, after Alās discovery of and praises for the product.)
I am almost certain Iām going to end up with the Mk2 or Tambaqui, though the Meitner MA3 is also a possibility. Were it my list - and given your leaning towards the Esoteric - Iād listen to those four. I doubt any of them will be a mistake. If the max is limited to 3, then Iād drop the MA3.
Good stuff, thx!
If I had the the MU1 I would be looking for dac only for sure
Too many good Daxās out there. I heard the Bricasti and legally enjoyed it. Build quality as with most on the list is off the charts and is Uber important to me
When I first looked into streaming, the Lumin T2 had some excellent reviews going and was commended for the user interface of their software. Itās certainlyā¦ functional, but having moved to Roon for the MU-1 at home, I am seriously wowed by Roonās product.
That opinion might be mitigated by the latest version though, which requires internet service to work. (Itās cloud based and comes with security issues that one should be aware of in deciding whether / how to implement it in oneās home network.)
Also, Lumin says itās Roon-compatible, though I havenāt tried doing that at the office. Clearly itās not functioning as the Core, so Iād need to set something up for thatā¦ and the all-in-one solution for my office system is fine.
I had the DSD Mk I with mods and I loved it. It went to a good home. One of my friends took it. I Then bought a Waversa VDAC that I loved and another friend decided that he wanted that. I now have ended up with DCS Bartok and Iām thoroughly enjoying it! For what itās worth you can go wrong with most of the DACS in your spreadsheet.
will be tough for me to demo a Bartok, I have heard one in a friend of a friendās system for about an hour and it sounded great. His system is polar opposite from mine (SET amps with LaScallaās) but it would mostly be a leap of faith based on DCS reputation
Itās definitely in the running, thanks for your input, much appreciated. I may PM you at a later date for some more insight if thats okay? how is Mosaic app if you are using it?
You might add the T+A SDV 3100 HV Streaming DAC to your list. I think it fits in with your level of quality and expectation.
I have not heard one personally but I think @rower30 has one in house and likes it a lot. I just missed a used one that was only on the market a few minutes.
Yes, I use the SD3100 HV DAC, the stand alone DAC without the CD carriage. The filters are excellent and I use DSD512 upsampled from JRiver30 on all my source materials.
The DAC is VERY flexible and is really two separate DACS, a PCM and DSD. You get optimized filters for both technologies. I enjoy the DSD sound, as I did with my PS Audio DAC. The JRiver 30 DSD512 up sample is geat, too. The T+A SD3100HV DAC can do DSD1024 streaming using NAA, Network Audio Adapter. JRiver 30 is stuck at DSD512 so far.
All I can say is it had to REALLY be good to get me off the PSAudio DAC as that is a nice DAC for the money. Is it four times the price better? Well, it got me to buy it is all I can say and I havenāt looked back yet.
The DAC used with the DSD filters is a clean and tight / open sounding with expansive and precise image location. Imaging is a stickler with me. I have to have image specificity in the soundstage to be relaxing to listen to. True, it isnāt just the DAC but the DAC can destroy it too no matter how good your speakers image. If you like a warmer presentation you may not like it. None of the filters are āwarmā to my ear. The DAC is not bright. It is solid, dynamic and precise sounding with a wide open ambience around everything.
Appreciate the thoughts. My system overall is just a tad on the warm side of neutral (Accuphase mono-blocks/Magico) I can control imaging, detail and āairā somewhat with tube rolling in my preamp
Transparency and soundstage are priorities (especially on the digital side) for me. I do not have a dealer local to me but will do some research and check some reviews based on your experience and endorsement
Wherever the road takes me, itās sure to be a fun ride
What a great shopping adventure. Iām feeling the envyā¦I had a full two days with both Bartok and Tambaqui, using them as headphone amps and in a speaker system of Moon pre-power amps and Sopra 2.
My take away was the Bartok gas a MASSIVE sound stage and plenty of texture. The Tambaqui was incredibly detailed and dynamic. The Bartok a ābig pictureā presentation and the Tambaqui very exciting. If your system is already on the darker side, the Bartok might push you over the edge as itās a weighty presentation that wasnāt spot lit at all. The Tamvacqui had a bit more depth of stage, too.
My choice was the Tambaqui by a country mile. It just clicked for me. The Bartok just wasnāt spectacular enough. However, my very best hifi pal was the opposite. He found the Tambaqui throwing too much at him in a, āmy nerves are shot after an hourā way. He adored the Bartok for its power, heft and elegance.
So yeahā¦everything on your list is wonderful, just different flavours.
The T&A is gorgeous and certainly appears to bring the goods but at 36k is more than double what I want to spend at the top of my budget
I should have mentioned budget in addition to putting of the list so, 15k at the top (Bartok is 16k)
To be honest, if I were to drop 36k on a source it would be on a Brinkman Balance and itās companion HRS platform and still have room for an additional tonearm to give a different flavor to my Kuzma 4pt
Once I get my last dac squared away, Iāll be thinking last analog rig, quite a ways down the road
Thanks for the introduction to the T&A, Iāll be obsessing and drooling over the website for for the rest of the eveningš
I have been thinking that too. Accuphase left a very positive impression during recent amp search. The stereo amps are also very impressive. The A-75 Class-A 60W/ch Stereo Amp is very nice.
My DAC isnāt on that very impressive list. Those are some excellent opportunities though. Look at Ideon offerings. If I was shopping for a DAC Ideon Audio would most likely be my choice.
