A few here have already purchased
Would have purchased, but had purchased the AS-6 a month before this release from good guy Alvin
I had placed an order for the AS-6, then heard about the AS-8 Pro and managed to cancel the AS-6 order in time. Then I heard about the AS-10 Pro after receiving the AS-8 Pro. Sigh….
….but, I do really like what the AS-8 Pro has done to my system and expect AS-10 Pro customers will be even happier
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early birds don’t always get the best worm
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I have owned four LHY switches for the past three years. I started with LHY SW-8 that did not cost much. Why? I did not want to spend too much on a switch because I thought it was another snake oil thing. SW-8 did make a minor improvement (surprise!). Then when they came out of SW-10 I jumped into it, then I added a SW-6 so I could add an isolating fiberoptic link into streaming. Each step had brought further improvement into the system.
But LHY SW-10 Pro knocked out of the park! The improvement it brought is simply amazing. Alvin is overly excited about it on his YouTube too. I remember when he first introduced a network switch from LHY line, he said something like it might bring minor improvement to your system, and this time he said it will bring meaningful and big improvement to your system. I could not agree more!
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“Slumming it” with the SW-10 (OG). Sigh.
Content with my Tempus.
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My SW-8 is still chugging along cleaning up the incoming signal, 
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No mention on the so called SFP+ port in the dataswitch, still only works with 1gbit/s.
For the rest I am very happy with the AS8 I bought, interested to hear sometime how much gain the SW10 pro would bring.
I’m about 8 minutes into listening to my SW10 Pro vs my SW6. Both using Audience powerChord SEi on Gryphon PowerZone with Muon Pro to my Grimm MU1. Network link is CAT6 to a Ubiquiti switch though I’ll run the fiber I bought at some point.
It is… not subtle.
First word that comes to mind is “ballsy.” Everything’s got more snap and drive. There’s a vividness and instrumental clarity that doesn’t sound exactly like my analog rig, but gets a lot closer. There’s a tiny bit of upper midrange dryness but it is early and it sounds like something that could burn off with time.
It’s a big difference. One thing I’ve found with both the SW6 initially and now the SW10 Pro is that the “hifi” improvements they give translate to musical ones - music sounds more lyrical, nuanced and expressive. By comparison, the Muon has given me some hifi improvements but not very material musical ones. I don’t know if a Tempus would take it even further, but it is a bigger upgrade than I was expecting.
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It will sound better by tomorrow, and much better by next week. It probably will sound even better later. But in my case, I only had it for less than two weeks before the big amp showed up.
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That’s good to know. Now that it’s nighttime I hear even further improvement… already a really big upgrade in my system, no hyperbole. Currently on Yuja Wang’s most recent Rach 3 (DG 24/96) and it sounds so much better than the first time I listened to it a couple weeks ago.
I still need to figure out what the Muon Pro is giving me (it’s in there too so I’m hearing the combined effect) but if you have $2k to spend on your first network upgrade, I’d definitely steer you to the SW-10 Pro. It’s pretty epic in my system, streaming sounds so much more full-blooded and confident and visceral.
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Did you start using the muon pro the same time as the sw10? Or was the muon pro also used with the sw6?
I used the Muon Pro with SW6 for a few days, then swapped in the SW10. I am really not sure about the Muon, but the SW10 is a winner.
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Not sure if you can know without removing the NAMP out of the set up. A couple days with muon pro/SW6 then on to the SW10? I don’t think you can get an accurate depiction of what device is doing what. I have no doubt the new SW10p is better than SW6 but imo the Muon Pro has to be removed to compare apples to apples.
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Fair enough. I just tested taking the Muon out with the SW10. It’s… different. Muon makes everything a bit more incisive and present. Taking it out makes everything a tad homogenous. Interestingly it’s more improvement than I heard swapping it in and out with the SW6.
It’s nice with the SW10 and I am not sure my experience is matching that of others who say to start with Muon, then upgrade the switch. For me the Muon improvements seem more meaningful after the switch upgrade.
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To your main point, I suppose I will compare SW10 and SW6 both without Muon at some point… not that motivated as I have relatively little time to listen to music these days so I’d much rather focus on doing that, vs listen to network changes…
Like many owners here, I am a fan of Muon Pro system (MP). When pairing with MU2, the streaming SQ was further improved surely. But when LHY SW-10 pro was introduced, it was apparent to me that it made a bigger impact on my system than when MP was first installed. However, I had Gryphon D333 plus two Stealth power cables that all showed up within a couple of weeks. So it is hard to say that my initial impression was not influenced by the subsequent major improvement. On the other hand, a portion of the major improvement could be contributed from SW-10pro’s continuous break in too. The system is still sounding a little better day by day now, and it is impossible for me to determine which components are still in the break-in stage, and how big an improvement came from SW-10pro alone. Does my initial impression still hold true?
But by now my system is almost fully broken in, the recent posts on SW-10pro vs. MP perked my curiosity. Shortly I will remove MP out of my system to hear what difference it makes, and I will do the same with MP alone later.
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One thing that is obvious but easy to forget: while you can try to describe the general effect/character of a component or change, you really can’t generalize the effectiveness in a given system. The MP sounds pretty similar in my system with SW10 vs SW6, but the changes seem more meaningful with SW10.
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It didn’t take much time to write this post; it was too obvious on the SQ changes.
I removed Muon Pro from the streaming chain and listened through Qobuz streaming only. So, the streaming chain consists of only LHY SW-10 Pro connecting to MU2 by a Shunyata Omega ethernet. The loss of SQ was quite obvious. The soundstage became one dimensional, and the midrange lost its texture. So, Muon Pro is essential to my system still.
It turns out that I could not compare SW-10 Pro to MPS directly, because I also need to disconnect Shunyata Omega and not use the SNA Takshaka PC either (power cord has a major role in SW-10 Pro’s performance too). Basically, I connected satellite with MPS to MU2, and the SQ degradation was significant, much more than without MP alone. However, the comparison is really not between MP and SW-10pro, but to the whole enchilada of SW-10pro, Omega, and Takshaka combo (at a significantly higher cost). But it reconfirmed the importance of a good network switch in my system.
Grimm MU2 is very sensitive to movement and plug/unplug from its ports. Every time I did this would trigger a shutdown. This time I thought I blew an expensive fuse since I could not turn it back on. Finally I unplugged the PC and let it set for a couple of minutes and reinstalled the PC, and it was turned on. Thank goodness I saved the cost of an M2 fuse. I should not do this exercise too often.
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That’s very strange about your MU2… I have never noticed this with my MU1 despite being nonchalant about connecting and disconnecting ports. Might be an internal grounding issue? Did Bill Parish have any thoughts on that?
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