Gryphon PowerZone

Consider a rotary phase converter or an AC-AC MG set with a large fly wheel. The output will be clean as a whistle, stable and rock solid, with no switching involved. Basically a P20 on steroids.

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Thanks for all that. Difficult variables to tame. My recording, my room, my power. All seemingly impossible to neutralize.
But, I won’t be the Debbie Downer on this bus.
Enjoy the process, right? :grimacing:

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Are you talking EE to me? You seem well versed, but I don’t know power like you do
I did run 60 feet of 3/4” conduit and pulled 3 conductor 10ga. wire stranded, today,
so I can set up in a larger room, but that’s about the extent of my knowledge.
I will pick your brain later, if you are willing. Going to put the PZ thru it’s paces now.

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EE, yup, power analysis as a senior project, applied as a side study with the Army Corp of Engineers in parallel with college studies. Then did studies in a noisy industrial environment when required. Tuned specialty instrument Inverters, AC-AC, AC-DC motor drives, MG sets, and large turbine generator excitation systems. Power quality analysis and testing for large electrical generators as part of acceptance testing, and well as power transformers. Dynamic load analysis and modeling, etc. In that world the P15/P20s are merely toys. :wink:

I’ll add this, which you probably know, light dimmers are not your friend. An electrician a wiring upgrade for our kitchen, family room and bathrooms, installed light dimmers. Stereo sounded horrendous, replaced with Hubble industrial quality light switches, stereo sounded great there after. Better than sticking gizmos, in adjacent outlets.

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Yup, dimmers suck. Hope to learn more from you,
APS…Audio Power Sensei.

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Those qualities you report are the same I am experiencing with my PZ 3.10

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My power strip arrived today and now replaces the PS Audio P10, which delivered good results with an SR Master Fuse.

Last week I had a Synergistic Research UHF 8 SE power strip, which did contain filter elements. The sound was warmer than the P10.

The Furutech Vault is probably going in a similar direction to the Gryphon Powerzone.
It doesn’t have a Hafner module, but it does have everything that Furutech currently has to offer.

In contrast to the P10, there is more resolution, but I also notice that it plays a little brighter in the upper tones. Perhaps less dampened than the PS Audio Power Stations.
But I hear more details than what the SR Master Fuse produced on the P10.
The reverberation of the room and sounds is more pronounced.
Dynamically, there seem to be no more limitations. The Vault power strip offers significantly higher resolution than the P10 or the Synergistic Research UHF 10.

As with the Powerzon owners, it may of course mean that other defects in the chain are now more noticeable.

I will wait a few hundred more hours before making a judgement or considering other options and changes.

Unless I do as Donald did and swap a few things during the burn-in period to pass the time.

The power strip also has a ground pin now. My Farad Super 10 power supply also has a separate connection for grounding. :wink:

I haven’t even started the topic of separate grounding yet. From one rabbit hole to the next
:rofl:

The LHY SW 6 switch is still coming, it should have been delivered today. But the Furutech Vault arrived today, even though it was only announced for Friday.

And what about the AC/AC supply that Weedeewop mentioned?
If P20 is just a toy, what are Straightwire and the rest of us supposed to do?
A small car-sized generator of our own in the garden? :rofl:

Regards Andreas

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It is a very beautiful product aesthetically speaking. From my experience with NCF connectors, it takes at least 2 weeks for them to sound less clear and for the sound to become organic.

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Make and model please.

Enjoy.

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Furutech Vault E NCF
I decided to buy it because I got a really great offer that I didn’t want to miss out on.:wink:

The workmanship, the weight of over 30 pounds. I was impressed by the pictures inside. It looks like every socket has a cable of exactly the same length that comes together at the input without any clamps. Getting eight thick conductors on one connection grabbed me immediately.
I was told I didn’t need a filter. A power strip wired in a star configuration would be sufficient. I mean, look at the pictures. Can it get any better?
OK, maybe a nice connection cable.
I saw one that Al might like too. If Luca doesn’t buy this one. :thinking:
The seller wrote that he needed a slightly longer one and that such a cable had never been offered on the used market here.
Stealth Audio Cloude Grand AG. Would that be something? According to the website, it’s like the Dream 20/20, just with a silver ribbon.
Or is it more intended for preamps?
The name Dream says it all. It’s okay to dream.:wink:
Greetings Andreas

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Will the dimmer switches have a deleterious effect on the stereo if the stereo gear is powered from a dedicated circuit? I’ve been considering having Lutron smart dimmer switches installed.

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Yes. They kick all sorts of hash into the AC line. Nasty little buggers.

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I kind had a good idea what this meant but I’ll admit I looked it up.

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I’m sure it might have made me grin.

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Another evident difference I’m noticing with the PZ: dynamic range! Treble extension is increased as well as in the opposite direction lower frequencies are going down. I mean, in the same track I’m experiencing a wider distance between the two extremes. I’m new to this proportions.
The lowest passage seems to sound so delicate, almost inaudible, while loudest notes (female voices for instance) or attacks, seems to sound so powerful and impactful. Like changing the volume level via a remote, up and down, during the playback.
This is astonishing and involving, most of all it’s a completely new experience for me at this degree…

Probably the closest thing to a real performance experience, and I’m not playing classical music. WOW!

Have I already said THANKS AL?

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Back to the roots🤣
Starting with a cheap power strip from the hardware store, then a filtered power strip and finally the power station. Now let’s get back to a high-quality power strip.
I used to smile for a long time when someone told me to forget all filters.
But it seems the way Luca describes it to me too. The highs are extended and sound more natural. The first bright shine has disappeared. Have my ears adjusted to it?
The dynamics, especially with string instruments, cymbal hits, drums, bells are intense and lightning fast.
Yes and voices, especially women’s, scream louder.:wink: In some recordings I notice a different kind of spatiality or positioning of the events than I am used to. Unfiltered, the sound seems much more intense and real to me. It seems to me that filters or components that were previously in the way of the power supply had dragged the sound and washed out signals.
It is also said that broadband speakers without a crossover in the signal path would have their advantages and offer better timing.

Oops, I forgot my descriptions are with my Furutech Vault. I don’t have a Powerzone. But I notice similar changes.
Without a filter it seems to be a more intense experience.

Oh, and I would like to thank Al, the pioneer of simplified power supply. Without your Powerzone euphoria and the words of Mattjes from Farad that I should forget about filters and generators and that I should choose a high-quality wired power strip, I would still believe in filters. A good power strip seems to damage the sound less and lets music retain its soul.

Greetings Andreas

What if those dimmer switches are completely off? Do they still have a deleterious effect?

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As far as I know, there shouldn’t be any major harmful effects as long as the light isn’t dimmed. Off is off.:wink:

Deleterious minds (me) wants to know @weedeewop

The question I have for you is, is the PowerZone a Sakra level change or an even bigger change? I think it is a bigger and better change.

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