What about a wild option like Grand Activation AC-55? 3x 10awg OCC copper with treatment similar to QSA
Not sure who the EU retailers are, but this would be my top choice over other audiophile bulk cable like Furutech DPS 4.1, S55N, anything Neotech, etc (though I still think highly of those others mentioned). It’s also easy enough to strip out of the sheathing to use individual conductors if needed – I’ve done this for the internal AC wiring for my server’s ULPS with great results.
What bothers me is that it is not mentioned which material is used to insulate the conductors. Outer cover PVC OK. PVC is a poor insulation in terms of sound, but it has good mechanical properties.
Have you tried the Furutech dps-4.1 yourself?
I think there is a lot of marketing and to me it sounds like they want to go with the QSA wave.
Dps-4.1 has Teflon insulation, NCF material. The conductors are made of a mixture of Furutech alpha OCC and most of it DUCC copper from Mitsubishi.
Acrolink uses DUCC copper and high-quality insulation.
DUCC copper is very pure and has no
grain boundaries with a preferred direction.
Acustic Revive uses triple C copper from OCC and mixes the insulation with tourmaline to eliminate interference.
Nanotech uses various high-quality copper types from various manufacturers. However, they have a silver gold oil coating system to adapt the sound of the copper cables to your wishes. Nanoliquid with gold and silver is their specialty and they also supply this to Furutech for the 55, 22 and 32 Furutech cables, for example.
Neotech is the largest and, as far as I know, only manufacturer of OCC cables made of copper and silver after the company stopped production in Japan. OCC cables are either from old leftover stocks or now come from Neotech.
Oyaide has its own process again to make copper very pure.
Thanks for the advise, is this your electrical set up?
@Stier2704 yes, I really like DPS 4.1 too. I have two DPS 4.1 power cables, and use DSS 4.1 on my speakers. I’ve also used S55N, Neotech NEP-3001 mkIII, NEP-3002 mkIII, NEP-3003 mkIII, the new graphene version of NEP-3003, DH Labs Red Wave, etc.
I haven’t tried the Neotech myself yet. There are some good cables in the range. I find the Amazon or Claude Grand and a few other cables very interesting.
Yes, I also have the Dps-4.1 power cable and the Furutech dss-4.1 speaker cable in the system and so far I like it. I have now combined it with Dragon source and I think they complement each other well.
The Dps-4.1 might be too rigid for Luca’s power cable and at 15 meters long it’s not exactly a price-performance recommendation.
I would say the Furutech 55 is out. I don’t think Luca likes it. It’s fun and shows that power cables can sound different.
Even thicker than the Dps-4.1, very lively, analytical, dynamic with a very wide stage. It’s fun but can be tiring in the long run. Used in the right constellation and dose, it’s not bad.
Luca should write to the guy at Audionirvana. He has some cables and knows the sound too. Maybe he has a recommendation for you regarding your preferences and also flexibility for installation.
Although at 30 mm, a little lubricant should work.
Or you can leave the cables and just replace the fuses. Maybe the Akiko audio box for the earth conductor interference suppression.
Or try the interference suppression solution from Kemp Elektronik. Apparently it also saves on electricity costs.
I’ll certainly do that, thanks.
I have no fuses in my panel, just circuit breakers, a general differential and a current arrester (and a module to check in real time the current flow used by the components)
Yes, my dedicated line is made up as described. If there are no particular critical conditions that could induce disturbances in the cables along the path (for example proximity and sharing with others) it is not necessary to use shielded cables. Braiding the cables as I suggested is a good rule of thumb to prevent disturbances as it is also free of charge. Conversely, shielding is necessary on the cables of our equipment which are inevitably wired a few centimeters apart from each other. Suggest what I have described to your electrician, you will see that he will agree and will have no difficulty in issuing you the certification.
PS For the materials to use, choose the ones you think are most suitable if it makes you feel more at ease, pure copper cables, silver cables, super high-performance switches, etc. The important thing is that they are compatible and certifiable according to current regulations on electrical safety.
Thanks.
Vince Galbo from MSB suggests to have wires twisted (if it means the same as you are referring as “braided”) every 10 cms inside the PVC pipes,
But ONLY two wires, phase and neutral, while laying the earth wire linear.
Here is his paper posted on MSB Forum on the argument.
Again, I’m wondering which is the preferred gauge using 230V 16A current if 10 gauge is the appropriate one using 120V 20A. I’d be happy following your advice to get 4 mm2 size (easier to install).
Where are you based in 230V world?
TIA
Let’s say that the length of the line affects the current carrying capacity as a function of the cable cross-section. When creating a 15m line, even 2.5mm2 is sufficient. Given the line in question presupposes the connection of different equipment and of which the current absorption is uncertain (total consumption today 10A tomorrow 20A following the addition of devices) a section of 4mm2 is preferable and recommended.
To give an example, a dedicated line for an electric oven, given the certain consumption of the same (2.7Kw) a 4mm2 section is mandatory both for the absorption itself and for the insulation of the 4mm2 cables (which is higher to that of 2.5mm2 cables).
Obviously we are talking about systems for use in civilian homes, not industrial systems.
Thanks, I was asking because as you know all is always overkill in audiophile world.
Here is a Polish dealer who also has many nice cables.
