Magico Magic (and unrelated matters)

As per taken completely out of context.

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Fair enough. I read it as name-calling.

I apologize/no offense intended.

Thanks. No problem. I like Brodric, and certainly wasn’t name calling. This is the big failing with text messaging how they can be perceived!

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The money is not in the brackets, it’s in the manufacturing of the pods that couple the brackets to the floor.

Hopefully, for that kind of money, the pods are decoupling the speaker from the floor.

For the money they should levitate.

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Actually they couple the speaker to the floor, not decouple.

Seems a waste of money… Coupling doesn’t really require a high level of technology.

It does when you want to channel any vibration out of the speaker cabinet and dissipate it without having unwanted floor-borne vibration traveling into the enclosure in the other direction.

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Actually, what you describe (constrained layer dampening ) has been used in many industries for decades. Architecture, transportation are the most obvious examples.
I’m sure it works great.

IMO using spikes or similar pure deduction meanwhile is the most disproved best practice in the audio world.

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True. But, from what I know, the ISODAMP thermoplastic formulation used in the Magico solution is a more recent development.

They supposedly couple low frequencies while decoupling high frequencies :man_shrugging:

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I’m sure it is.
IMO, it is really an example of de-coupling. Coupling implies the larger object (floor) will dictate, through resonance, which frequencies will propagate between the two. De-coupling implies an absorption (or active counter) of frequencies between the two objects AFAIK. All that matters is, it works! People always say Isoacoustic Gaia footers are over priced. I’d say $1,400, is a lot less than $10,000!
I’m sure the Magico solution is an exceptional performer.
No doubt, if I could afford Magico speakers, I’d get the MPod too!

The words describe themselves:

Couple = connect or become one. Spikes would couple the speaker to the floor. If the floor has more density than the cabinet then coupling could help with cabinet resonance.

Decouple = disconnect or become separate. Isolators of any type would attempt to disconnect the speakers from the floor. If the floor is more resonant than the cabinet then isolation would keep the floor resonance out of the cabinet.

If for the cost of the Magico’s if they can’t make their cabinetry so it does not resonate then you need to pay them another $10k for a crutch to help the poor cabinet design. We make stuff like that plate base every day and if I could get $10k a pop I might have to take a long vacation.

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This conversation about cost v value is funny. Who’s to judge? My power supply, P20, list for $10K. Think my BHK 300s list for $15K. My long retired union dad thinks it’s nuts…and he’s right. I have a $500 bottle of rye whiskey (well I did till I drank it). It’s not worth it…but it is!

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My conversation really centers on, coupled vs decoupled. But, as I mentioned, I’d go with the solution designed for the specific application, if I could afford it! LOL. Though, I bet my inexpensive Gaia footers are just as effective. Below is a description taken from the Magico site. I rest my case, decoupled.

“Prior to installation the top and bottom halves of the MPOD are held apart by a center spindle and pull-pin. Once the MPOD is installed the removal of the pull-pin engages the CLD properties of the MPOD. Once the pin is removed, no hardware is connected between the top and bottom part of the MPOD, effectively “floating” the component placed on it. The results: increased resolution, more focused imaging and improved soundstage.”

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I have Gaia’s under everything in my system now too and the improvement was significant. I was surprised most by the difference under my pre-amp. I wouldn’t say they were inexpensive, only by comparison.

I too have all components on Gaias. Speakers were, by far, the best improvement in my system.

I’ve got Isoacoutics devices under everything. They’re Canadian and are not far from where I live. You’ll see Isoacoutics products under a lot of Naim Focal products soon as Focal bought the primary distributor for Isoacoutics.