Empirically, a 10awg wire has less resistance, this alone should be enough reason, a dedicated circuit is not polluted like shared circuits. Too many people have changed from 14awg shared circuits to dedicated circuits and realized benefit for it to be placebo or expectation bias.
In my journey, I’ve realized the most gains with improving my power delivery and component isolation. Neither of which are comparatively very expensive and you can try the P12 without risk. I did the electrical work myself, and am currently experimenting with inexpensive vertical, horizontal and rotation isolation devices.
I too like real data but at some point it has to come down to the experience of listening to music. I don’t try and quantify the emotional impact when I listen to music. It would take all (most) of the fun out of it.
I know that about 10AWG. I’ll disagree, this is a hobby of where people feed off from each other and many smart people completely lose their scientific background when they walk through the door of their own home. It’s fascinating to me! Until you’ve been part of a true controlled blind test you can’t even imagine how it all works. Perhaps I’ll send @Paul a paper that will blow his mind.
We are all well aware of expectation bias and the like. Horse dead, well beaten. Many times.
Remember however it works both ways: if you are convinced you will not hear an improvement you will not, regardless of reality.
Trust your ears and your personal preferences. Try a Power Plant. Do not worry about specs or others’ reports - just rely on your own listening. If you cannot hear a difference, and you may not, it is not for you. But you may surprise yourself and find you are favorably impressed.
I like the ZeroSurge on the front end to protect my power plant. I am less concerned about a small (if perceptible) drop in sound quality. I am more concerned about another layer of protection for the power plant. Replacing a zero surge is a lot easier than shipping a power plant back for repair. Just my $0.02.
That’s fine then, as long as you know it and—this is important—it comes at the input of the Power Plant. That’s important because regardless of how high the input impedance the output will be low by virtue of the Power Plant.
And that’s why I said above that the dedicated line wouldn’t matter as the Power Plant will make the output as good as it can regardless of the input. Am I wrong? If so, why?
This is correct to the extent that a Power Plant will try its best with whatever input it is given. But the better the input, the better the output.
Paul’s point is that regardless of the input impedance, the output impedance of the Power Plant will always be low. This does not mean that the THD of the input does not matter, it does. Also, if there is a device before the Power Plant limiting current the Power Plant cannot fix this (it can to a degree, but there are limits).
You’re not wrong you’re just missing a few tidbits of info. Like the separate ground wire the dedicated line offer. Power Plants can’t and don’t affect ground. So a clean wire feeding straight from the sub panel and ground stake makes a big difference. That alone’s reason enough to do it. Secondly, it helps to have the heavier gauge wire we recommend as 10 gauge is rare in homes. Bigger pipe, easier for the Power Plant to grab current without restrictions.
What objective data in particular would suit your assessment purposes here?
When I look at the performance specs of a power amplifier I look at slew rate, damping factor, THD etc. What performance specs of a power regenerator would you like reported on?
What I’d be most interested in seeing is the AP measurements of the DS and any amp from PSA plugged into the P1x and those same components plugged into the same outlet without the P1x.
Is it possible to build a dumbed down version of P12/15/20 without the touchscreen? The power play data is all the information I need from a power plant, I don’t need any of the stuff the touchscreen does. Without the touchscreen bits I’m guessing $250-ish cheaper to build, and one less thing that might break down.
And my other question. What are the fundamental design and performance differences between Stellar Power Plant 300 and P12?
And my next other question. Would a Stellar Power Plant 300 power a whole Stellar system, or does there need to be a Stellar “600” for that?
If a Stellar PP 300 has one pair of non-regenerated, filtered/protected only outlets - and the rest regenerated, my guess is yes and it would drive even much more demanding systems too! Of course sound quality won’t be the same with the more demanding gear (big power amps, projector etc) on non-regenerated outlets, but (addressing PSA) - believe it or not: Their are lots of clients that are more interested in the protection offered, and to them the sound improvement is just a bonus.
But taking it even further: A major distributor/ Hi-Fi outlet in my country (who distributes Marantz, McnTosch, JBL, B&W etc. I know for a fact is more inclined to recommend and sell a regenerator that they know will work no matter what they throw at it, and is affordable to boot.
