Next DSD firmware update in 2020 or 2021?

Glenn Gould would not have agreed :wink:

Interesting - as I’ve recently been noticing how much looking toward what you’re listening to skews what you’re hearing. I suppose they are part and parcel of the same thing.

I was wondering when someone would mention Gould. On the subject of microphones, in a 1967 CBC broadcast he said (see Music & Mind, revised edition, p37):

ā€œThe microphone does encourage you to develop attitudes to performance which are entirely out of place in the diffuse acoustic of the concert hall. It permits you to cultivate a degree of textual clarity which simply don’t pay dividends in the concert hall.ā€

So I hate to correct you, but his percussive or extreme-articulation style was, by his own admission, taking advantage of the opportunities of recording and by implication his live performance would have sounded rather different.

Igor Levit can be highly percussive and, particularly with Beethoven, at times can be accused of losing sight on the underlying rhythm of the music.

You are absolutely correct; I should not have typed ā€œno.ā€ The danger of flying flanges without engaging the brain first.

I think a good example is Monteverdi’s Vespers of 1610. Until you’ve actually seen what goes on during a performance with the various instrumental and vocal groupings, I don’t know how you can get it from a recording.

Maybe if I had a 5-channel DSD $500k system things would be different.

Really interesting that he didn’t have such a percussive style live. At least he’s the one who did it for recording (which only few others did for Goldberg).

A recent hint in Copper was this one, which really has a similar style and is not bad…

You guys who are into 400 year old cover bands have interesting needs.

(You are in fine form today :slight_smile: )

Thank you, my good Sir. Have to say that, though it is still January, this is an early frontrunner for Most and Best Off-Topic Subthreads. Encouraging sign for 2021!

Schiff plays the Goldbergs in the second half of yesterday’s perofmnce and I’m looking forward to it.

The Pavel Kolesnikov one (the gold one image above) is interesting because he’s the least percussive pianist I’ve ever heard. (I heard him try and play Liszt - didn’t really work.) He studied the Goldberg’s for a dance project with Anna Teresa de Keersmaeker. We had tickets, but it was cancelled. My wife and I had the opportunity to discuss it with him for an hour or so and ultimately approached it at pure dance music. He explains it in the booklet.

Gould explains in relation to the A minor fugue in Bach’s WTK Book I that it can be monotonous and the final recording is actually two takes mixed together, one more legato, the other more staccato, basically pomp at the beginning and end and some skittishness in the middle.

It’s an example of how a performance can be decided in post-production.

I never knew pages and pages and days and days of posts about mic placement and recording techniques are so important (all of which bores me and have no interest in) when it comes to the next ds software (which I am very much interested in) What we need is a thread moderator who points this out, rather than encourages it.

It is off-topic.

As you know, on this forum off-topic is almost more common than on-topic. :slight_smile: And there is a lot posted on the forum which bores me, too. It is part of the community package.

This thread contains all sorts of off-topic posts. There are discussions of hardware, formats, recordings and their availability at various resolutions, streamers, competing DACs, mountain climbing, the Matrix, Roon, players, preamps, and yet more!

It remains a difficult balance. In the past I quickly split off unrelated topics, making multiple threads out of a separate thread. The denizens howled in protest (replete with viscous name calling and lengthy screeds; you should see some of the private messages I receive). The more cogent argued threads should be as a conversation, traveling to where ever they happen to go.

I would prefer a tidier approach, but this group of cats refuses to be herded. I learned to take a deep breath and to just join in.

But I do understand the frustration.

Keep in mind it will be a good while before there is new firmware for the DSD. There will be a separate thread announcing its existence. No one will miss it.

If you subscribe to Paul’s newsletter you will see it there, too.

Thank you for the note.

@chris5 - And, more often than not, it seems like we eventually wander back on topic.

@tedsmith answered the OP question perfectly and completely in his reply, the second post, and it could have ended there.

That said, I’ve learned a lot from people’s comments and my own rummaging around the internet. Turns out there are more than big brown bears in the woods of deepest Colorado. There’s an audio format trying to burst out. Why is it called Moose Studio anyway? I thought Moose came from Canada.

Colorado was big news over here yesterday as apparently a short drive from PS Audio there is a congresslady with a place called The Shooter’s Grill in Rifle. A few clues there. Apparently you have to bring a gun to dinner. I’ve enjoyed a nice raclette, which involves cooking your own dinner at the table, but in Colorado do you have to kill it as well? She did look a bit wide-eyed and conspiratorial.

Have I gone off-topic again? A thread on mountain hiking Colorado would be nice as we’re in to mountain walking.

Well, this thread got badly hijacked!

A good hijacking or kidnapping is best enjoyed with plenty of Stockholm Syndrome.

You are not helping! :slight_smile:

Time to take bets and play "Name the Fourteener":thinking:

I kinda like Quandary. Or Conundrum in the Elk Mountains.

Thinking outside of the box (and the actual names of the of big hills in the range) I was thinking about ā€œAre we there yet?ā€

Catchy, no?

Uncompahgre Peak

How it’s pronounced is all in the mic placements

See what I did there?