I try to apply the 1 for 1 rule with my wife. Each (1) gift for her, like fashion objects, SPA weekends or vacations in general… means 1 gift for myself, like… like… you can imagine what! So I spend double but I’m twice happy.
I’m now on an island with her, Sardinia is really a wonderful place, just because last month I bought my new P20. Couldn’t be happier.
Oh, tweaks like fuses and tubes don’t count, of course. Don’t tell her!
Very happy for you to remind the P20 needs a 20a outlet! I do not want to start any house remodel becuase my wife will start issue change orders to the contractor.
Also glad to hear your thought too. My M1200s are so effecient so my entire system seldom reach 300w. P15 provides plenty of power. A more sensible upgrade in future maybe another power cord that I do not ever needed but might or could sound a tidy better.
Even more. Don’t buy from shops on high street, go directly to headquarter production. The same rule you can apply if you buy from Boulder a P20 vs from a trusted local dealer. The shorter the chain the bigger the deal. And the newer the season collection you may find, 3 years ahead.
So happy the EU P20 model needs only the 10A, able to use the same Dragon PC. 2000 power means an incredible headroom but the real game changer compared to my previous P12 is not power only I suppose, Paul himself often underlines low impedance as the key factor if my memory serves well.
For the last few days, I have been playing around with @vmax newest tweak, a 3M 7050 RFI/EMI absorbent tuning ring. I have tried a 1.5” ring on PCs and I didn’t really hear much difference. Now I use a 3” long ring and the tuning ring works!
In my system the most improvement was made on Cullen Crossover2 pc connecting to BHK Pre, the music simply flows smoother with more energy, as if the musical notes gained 10% weight (in a good way). It made a similar improvement when I switched to a Purist Audio Colossus Rev. B PC. But, when I add rings to Stealth V10, Silnote Orion M1 Ref. and Zaffino OCC Silver Dart, the effect is smaller. in fact, too many rings may not necessarily be a good thing, I played mostly the DCC Elvis gold CD (which is better than my SACD copy btw) during these tests. When adding three or more rings to the system the music became too heavy, and Elvis sounded like he had a cold. My final try was to put a 3" long ring on the AQ Dragon, here it simply made the sound worse.
My conclusion is the ring would help in tuning for sure if it is placed in the right combination of the PC and gears. Two or more rings may help or may not depend on the systems too. The best location of the ring is closer to the male connector which is consistent with finding from vmax.
@Vmax @dchang05
If you haven’t yet, you guys might be interested in considering a Schumann resonator.
Why it can work, it might have to do with the effect on the listener and the equipment both.
All electronics ever have been designed and constructed under the influence of the Earth’s field (and we’re all born under it too) so it’s natural that stabilizing its average frequency in the room can affect the performance of electronics and our nervous system too.
(This is why a 100% mu-metal coverage would not be a good idea in any case)
I use an Acoustic Revive RR-777 Ultra Low Frequency Pulse Generator together with a KingRex MK2 PSU. The thing it seems to affect the most is the soundstage which becomes fuller/more dimensional when it’s turned on.
I appreciate your eagerness to try the tweak and sharing your results I have had lots of success using rings on the Whispers and the whisper Elite power cables. I actually found the Elite the AB7050HF tuning ring you can go from warm bass thick sound with strident highs nearer the female Iec to an articulated bass with more balance at one index finger from where the cable starts entering the backshell. The number of wraps and being snugged to cable changes sound more. My rings are two inches wide by 8.25 rectangle laying flat. the sheet then wrapped snuggly in a tight ring two to three times thickness of a single sheet. It is like having an infinite selection of power cords. I credit this tweak to @aangen stealth dream loan cable! My previous attempts at absorber on cable I tried wrapping the plugs. Moving it up and down the cable really was the enlightenment.
Yes, and back then I was certainly wrong at the start in thinking it should be blocked - then came comments on the resonator devices and I had to realize it’s of course beneficial to have it, and even amplify it.
Now, I think that holding a steady resonance in the listening room will still be affected by local changes in the Earth’s Schumann resonances. If these devices monitored the local activity and compensated to keep it even in the room, might be even better. Possibly.
(Just noticed an abundance of “if”, “could”, “might”, “possibly”, “maybe”, etc, when perusing my writing… It is certainly a possibility that I might possibly be an idealist, if that’s the right word, could be.)
One of these days I may have get a Whisper to try. it seems the ring works well with it (them). Right now I do not plan to increase my abundant cable collection though.
I have never tried a Tomahawk steak it says they are from Kansas City. But doing a Google search it appears Flemming’s in Plano is closest with 35 oz ribye for two special. No quote on what the special price is. What establishment do you find them at in TX?
The Mrs has a birthday this week. A steak sounds like a must.
BTW.
I went back and listened to entire Whisper Power Cable Evaluation playlist I have saved for public consumption once again last night. This is after returning the Whisper Elite to streaming LPS duty and adding a Tuning Ring to the Dragon HC. Everything was entirely exquisite. Definitely best yet. Such space and a natural ease. Not a voice or instrument that sounds wrong. Nothing is falling apart if you choose to push the volume. The sound holds up in the Home Theater arena also.
Now time to sub out Al’s Stealth on my preamp and try to find a cable worthy so I can trial the stealth VR18 SE versus the Dragon HC with tuning Ring. I need to finish up this trial and get his cable back he was so gracious to loan. I hope I can tune a regular Whisper I have unused now to make it work on preamp. May have to resort to double tuning rings. Otherwise must bite the bullet and order a Stealth. Easily a quarter of year of Tomahawks weekly.
I do say this Whisper cable trial sure has improved my system so far. Never thought I’d be tuning power cables yet alone owning So many Whispers and entertaining spending 8K on a power cable.
Let me start with the caveat that I haven’t been there since the mid-90s. But, there’s an establishment in Houston, the Taste of Texas, that had some of the best steaks I’d ever had. You used to be able to pick out the steak you wished at the display case when you entered, they had an excellent wine selection and they do have a Tomahawk steak on their menu. The price listed is $116 and it’s 38 oz.
Might be worth a shot.
EDIT: Just checked and Houston is way, way farther from DFW. Sorry about that.
Thanks Joe. Yeah Houston is not a frequent haunt for me. One of my favorite steak houses is Pappas Brothers in DFW. H3 Ranch in Fort Worth Stockyards is also nice My all time favorite is Berns in Tampa.
Fleming is very good but I have not tried it in TX. In fact I have only been in your state a couple times and that was years ago. I just remembered I liked the food portion a lot better than in SF.
On the golf course now and having a nice round, my system sounded better too and I’ll write more later.
I hope your Whisper with tuning ring can compete with Stealth V18 in some areas. If it does then it is a great bargain, and you could have top-grade Tomahawks or even Wagyu every week. I have a Stealth V10, and I really like the sound. But in my system the AQ Dragon is the winner. Of course, V18 is a few grades higher so I have no doubt it is the best out here. But I really do not think I will spend more than a Dragon on any cable.
After I removed all the dust caps (or noise stopper as some called it) on non-used connectors, my system sounded quieter and more three dimensional. I am going to re-try some of the tuning rings to see if they make more difference now.
I received a Whisper today. Duncan apparently added something additional which is from the elite version (additional EMI shielding?). I’ve got it settling in between my Shunyata Denali V2 and Mola Mola DAC.
Initial impressions that it’s very good. My daily driver power cable to the DAC is an Alpha V2. I’ll try to add more detailed thoughts after the weekend.
FYI, for anyone who is curious to hear the Whisper, I’m in the Portland, OR metro area. PM me if you’re local and want to set up an listening session.
Congratulations on the Whisper. They settle out quickly especially with Duncan’s burn in. I need to have my three whispers updated with the new EMI shielding. Looking forward to your review. Especially given you have the Shunyata cord. When and if you feel you want a bit more out of them. Make a tuning ring out of 3M. absorber. It is like have a dozen more power cords in one. You maybe satisfied as is with the added shielding of Duncan’s new design . They are that good.
Last night I finally took the time to place Al’s the Stealth Dream V18 LE Digital into PSA P20 powering entire system mode. This was after finding a replacement for its spot where it truly reined supreme powering my MX150 pre processor with a tweaked tuning ring position . That was not an easy feat only have one Common Ground Whisper Elite. The spots I have trialed the Whisper Elite it is always near the top. Especially if you also find an optimum position for its tuning ring.
I did find recently after my Dragon HC was tuned onthe P20 with a homemade 3M AB7050HF tuning ring all of my downstream cables got better way better just liked the Whisper Elite with tuning ring. The whisper Elite with tuning ring knocks of the Dragon until the Dragon HC is tuned near the female IEC then its very close.and perhaps the Dragon edges ahead but I dount have enough Whisper Elites to place elsewhere
The cable for the MX150 ended up being the Core Power Diamond Xtreme with a Al foil wrap and Cu foil wrap. Interestingly no homemade tuning ring. It turns out it does very very well in the Preamp role and powering DS DACwhen the Dragon HC on P20 has the 3M absorber tuning ring. It was best of all cables I had available to trial except the Stealth V18 digital in this role I felt it important to get my system sounding top notch before swapping cables at the P20.
It would be interesting to have a Stealth Dream V18 UNI cable for this trial since it has adjustments with Pins placed in its back shell to convert between Digital, Power Distribution and Analog roles.
But what I found was the Stealth Dream V18 Digital powering P20 is not as open high end and objects in Soundstage are more founded perhaps a tad filtered. However it still performed better than the Base level Whisper or tuned Ehisper or my double Al and copper wrapped BAV power cord powering the P20. Please note none of the choices are bad for my system until one hears a better match to the system you would be completely happy.
So for the P20 using a SR Purple Fuse for my system a subjective ranking
AQ Dragon HC with 3M Tuning Ring or Whisper Elite with 3M Tuning Ring Note: Perhaps a slight edge to Tuned Dragon on more High End clarity.
Whisper Elite
Dragon HC
Stealth Dream V18 LE Digital
Whisper base with tuning ring
Whisper base
BAV 20Amp with two foil wraps
BAV 20Amp
The P20 cord it delivered with Note any of the above cords way out distancing its performance by a mile.
Now on to testing my new M-1 Audio Magic fuse vs Purple.
Adding this post about AM-1 Fuse better than SR purple in P20.
I let mine draw about 2 amps streaming all day. About 12 hours in. But feel this Beeswax M-1 to be so much better if than the Ultimate Premier. It has the wide soundstage but better imaging. Better vocals and perfect bass. SR is going to need another color past purple. The low level volume listening is so scrumptious with 3 Watt peaks. It usually takes me 12 watt peaks to get excited. Totally loving this fuse. Worth every penny.
I will wait for 125 hours to put the Purple back in.
Thanks @fred75 for making me aware of this gem The diamond ring case is appropriate!
Okay @dchang05 no reason to wait. This Beeswax delivers like my absorber tweaks. You won’t be disappointed!
Nice summary, and it is interesting that the ring did not work well near the male end, but sound much better near the female end on AQ Dragon HC. It will stay there but I need to dress it up with a beautiful PVC sleeve eventually (no bra hook for me).
The 3" ring on Cullen with golden wrapper is powering the Power Supply for the server, another one is used for the router, and the Anticable 3 with golden wrapper plus a 2" double-ring is at the pre., but I switched it with Purist (wrapper and 2" double-ring) since both sound ways better than before and I do not favor one over other. Other PCs do not get any absorber treatment in the system because adding more the sound gets too hollow. So, for those of you out there who want to try them out I am offering my experiences, in addition to vmax’s.
{I am in the wrong thread here, sorry to kidnap the P15/20 with the absorbing rings. Apparently, I was everywhere and got confused today. I apologize!}