PS Audio Direct Stream with the Bryston BDP-2

one is a wanna be manufacturer…the other is solid with a future…

after reading this post, i see nothing has changed (for the better)…

so everyone shout this guy down…how dare him ask to get what he paid for and so far waiting over 4 yrs to be make whole again…

I’m not seeing any “shouting down” on this thread. Can you point to an example of that?

Let’s look at the logic here. My Intel NUC isn’t 100% compatible with my Singxer SU6. I have to downsample all my DSD files to 192khz. Singxer won’t fix it. Should I go to an Intel forum and ask Intel to buy a Singxer SU6? And conversely what chance do you think I’d have if I insisted that Singxer buy the exact NUC set up with Roon Rock to investigate the issue?

The problem with this whole thread for the last four years is the lack of logic.

duh…LOL

He got what he paid for until one manufacturer made a change to their product and a problem resulted so now he wants the manufacturer of the unchanged product to fix it. Sounds logical to me.

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Which is which? Both have been around for about 40 years. I always thought both were legitimate.

Furthermore, I have actually owned a BDP-2. I sold it and use my NUC into my Singxer SU6 feeding my DSD with a Wireworld HMDI cable. Sounds fabulous and IMHO opinion far superior to the BDP-2 feeding the DSD via good quality SPDIF, AEX/EBU and USB cables (I tried all the outputs).
Also, the BDP-2 has been out of production for quite some time so I can only assume that Bryston really don’t have much of a fiscal motivation to get it to work 100% with every DAC on the market.
So there are better sounding solutions (in addition to the one I arrived at) and there is even a solution available to you (though not optimum) it you choose to keep the Bryston.

Bryston doesn’t use falsehoods to sell…like my two PSA Blu-ray players did…surely, you’ve read my complaints before…research my threads if you don’t remember since i bought them 3 years ago @ 12/3/17…

First off, we all need to be respectful in our responses, myself included.

The reason I suspect the problem lies with the PS Dac is because its claim to fame is the FPGA that Ted has so genuinely managed to tweak and squeeze out improved sound, the Bryston on the other hand uses standard dac chips. At least that is my assessment of the conflict in the signal.

I just want an honest approach to see if it can be corrected.

Perhaps, in the end , I need to try a Bridge 2 in my PS DS dac, is that the final answer? I dunno. But I do have at least 4 TB of High Rez files and I also listen to Qoboz. So will the Bridge 2 work with those parameters? Again, I dunno.

Anyway, Happy New Year to all!

ozzy

Yes, Bridge II can work. You will need to decide on a compatible music file curating/rendering software to use with the Bridge II, though. There are nearly a myriad of options and differing opinions on what works and sounds best.

FWIW, my music is streamed from my iMac hard drive to the Bridge II Ethernet card via Wi-Fi (to a router) and Ethernet (from router to the Bridge). I have currently settled on two rendering methods to listen to music: 1) JRiver Media Center/JRemote for all of my stored files (downloads and rips of my CD collection); and 2) Roon Core/Roon Remote which accesses and “curates” my stored files AND integrates with my Qobuz and Tidal accounts. Roon is really quite elegant/nifty and sounds great. A great primer on how Roon works can be found here: How Roon Works.

Most often, I listen via Roon to explore new music or simply enjoy the music with a less critical ear (read this as “when I am in non-audiophile mode”). For “critical listening”, I nearly always default to listening to the music I own (stored files) via JRiver Media Center (JRMC). Overall, to my ears with my system configuration, JRMC rendering stored files generally sounds better than the Roon Core/Roon Remote-rendering of the same stored files. More on JRMC here: JRiver Media Center Overview.

For ease of use, overall sound quality and integration of stored files with internet streaming, I don’t know of any software (free or otherwise) that beats the Roon Core/Roon Remote combination.

I know many have put together systems that surpass the sound quality of the Bridge II card and have moved on from its use as the input of their PS Audio DACs. However, in my experience to date, Bridge II along with JRMC has resulted in the best “digital” ever in my system.

I would not hesitate to try the Bridge II card and see how it compares to your previous experience. You might find your current, separate Bryston “black box” to be superfluous. The Bridge is pretty darn good, IME.

Hopefully, others will chime in with additional perspectives and suggestions regarding potential alternatives for you.

Best of luck to you.

I don’t have a dog in this hunt, but Paul’s post from 3 days ago (#90) seems to have gone unnoticed and without comment.

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scotte1,

Thank you for that information.
So, JRiver is more for stored music than for streaming source such as Qoboz? And both would require subscriptions?

ozzy

hthaller,

Paul’s reply still requires someone (like myself) to be without music for at least a month. I have stated over and over that PS Audio should be able to secure a Bryston BDP-2 or the newest model BDP -3 on their own.

ozzy

Roon is subscription based (and their is currently a “lifetime” subscription option). JRMC is software that you purchase and download from the internet. In theory, its a one-time purchase. But each (frequently discounted) software update must also be purchased. I tend to stay at least one software iteration behind on JRMC (to let the trail blazers and the company work out bugs) and update every couple of years or so.

JRMC has some internet radio and streaming capabilities as well, but it currently does NOT integrate with Qobuz or Tidal.

I highly recommend you spend some time on the Roon and JRMC websites and in their user forums to get a better fell for the products’ capabilities and foibles.

By the way, some more on the Bridge II:

With UPnP software like JRiver, Mconnect Player, or similar programs like Twonky internal to most NAS, you can build playlists, compilations, listen to radio, sort through everything that’s high-resolution, listen to music and artists as never before. For perhaps the first time the thrill and discovery of a music library system comes alive in your hands and you never have to worry that you’re missing something in the performance.

The PerfectWave Bridge II can handle any sample rate and bit depth from 44.1kHz 16 bit all the way up to 192kHz 32 bit–and DSD–without breaking a sweat.

[Source: PSA PerfectWave Bridge II Webpage]

True, but it’s always best if the device being examined is one that has exhibited the characteristic to be investigated.

Also, I’m willing to hazard a guess that if you contacted Paul, he’d arrange a gratis trial of a Bridge II for you

The J River software has a 30 day free trial, as well.

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“Also, I’m willing to hazard a guess that if you contacted Paul, he’d arrange a gratis trial of a Bridge II for you.”

@hthaller: A great (why didn’t I think of that?) suggestion.

Thanks hthaller and scotte1,

I am a senior citizen and sort of new to the world of digital terms and programs. But I am willing to learn. I think I will look into your suggestions.

ozzy

Or, as in my case, one could keep things as simple as possible and just pick up an Aurender. Internal storage and integrates external NAS storage, Tidal, and Qobuz seamlessly through their control app. You give up some of ROON’s awesomeness, but their app is free, and not too bad.

Just keep in mind that you will need to have a computer in the mix to use Roon and/or JRiver Media Center. (And, BTW, Roon is much more “plug and play”-like/user friendly than JRiver Media Center in my experience/opinion.)

Regards.