“…and don’t call me Shirley…”
So the self appointed “pope” is handing down encyclicals…again…
Blah blah blah blah blah and so forth and so on still more
blah blah blah …Doesn’t seem to get it…!!!
Did the white smoke ever confirm this particular “pope”…
None that anyone here ever saw
Leslie William Nielsen:
Dead or Canadian? (from an “in poor taste” trivia game/joke)
In this case, the answer to the questions is, “Both”.
RIP Mr. Nielsen.
We know @CinDyment is a big spender on cables, so here’s “Big Spender” with Shirley (McLaine) and the complete genius of Bob Fosse.
My father got married in New York and the highlight of the trip was seeing the musical “Fosse” on Broadway.
This warm feeling from blushing is kinda weird. Not my usual.
Thanks for the kind words,
Vince
Hi Cindy,
I answered your question earlier but again…
When you address Vp linearity by improving the R and C balance, it ALSO addresses the low frequency impedance by LOWERING it and thus the amplifier has a better cable / speaker interface where the majority of power is dissipated and is most aggressive to simple signal reflections.
Cable can never be eight-ohms and most speakers are not resitive at all, and speaker cables are most reactive at lower frequencies. We can improve the low frequency impedance situation since the lower Vp pushes it way high for ideal application. How? We ADD capacitance. Look at the impedance of 1313A and ICONOCLAST…a big difference.
How MUCH capacitance needs to be decided upon and I used the effects at high frequency Vp properties to STOP the added cap when Vp linearity is most improved per pF of added capacitance. This cap amount will vary based on the AWG loop DCR of the insulated wires. We adjust BOTH R and C to an optimized place.
So using individual insulated wires allows;
Lower cable impedance at the low end.
Addresses Vp linearity, skin depth and proximity effect.
Lowers the Rs swept resistance knee at AC frequencies.
Higher CMA area addresses the voltage dropped across the cable at DC.
And it allows the ultimate control of where the inductance and capacitance goes and why (geometric properties).
We use “resistive” speaker impedances to calculate the wire voltage drop but we both know speakers and cable are both reactive and the true voltage drop is not the pure resistive number…but as you say, it is close enough. We ALSO know lower DCR is better all things still in order elsewhere.
ICONOCLAST improves ALL specs of a cable, and that’s your “ideals” pure R, L and C values, too. We also include EVERY facet we can as distortion is addative to analog so no, I won’t ignore Vp linearity for you as it needs to mesh with the cable impedance, too. Many of the tertiary variables are identified as such, no one is being fooled.
The copper is full vettet out for audition, and I have NEVER given a TRUE and VERIFIABLE reason it may impact the EM wave over time to adjust what we hear. No one knows why. The pure physical analysis (grains and resistivity) are presented but no repeatable calculation, like we can for Vp changes, are available. ZIP, ZERO, NONE have been put to equations or measurement except resistivity and resistivity is not time based, so no possible change in the sound.
We already have your cable 1313A, what is the purpose of your efforts to stop the design of a better analog cable across as many aspects as we can? That is the POINT of ICONOCLAST. How far can we take it over as many variables as we can? How do the variables relate to each other and do we understand what they are doing in theory, and yes, that includes the first order filter roll-off (very high MHz range) and Vp linearitie’s ability to alter the pitch by moving the harmonics off the fundamental. We all know this is in play.
What we also know, is that we don’t have a true proper design to try the full monty and see what happens when we review ALL the details for optimization. Now we do.
Like it or not, everything works together and any ONE variable isn’t the deciding factor over all the others. True, you can align them in your mind to “probable” order of audibility but once you do that physically, you alter every other variable to a less optimized calculation or measurement. Some of us don’t want to do that. We eant to try as good as we can get it…we also all have 1313A!
I understand your angle, but it isn’t mine…IGNORE all tertiary variables and who cares how pure R, L and C are derived. It DOES make a design difference to all the tertiary variables that go through those basic three numbers when you include them. You don’t want to, we all do.
We have a cable on your side (as a realist to value and cost), and a cable on the true purist side (to me a purist addresses EVERYTHING no matter how small).
Best,
Galen
Galen,
After reading and re-reading your posts, I feel like I know you just a smidge, but a smidge is just enough. I think you are wasting your time. I know it’s your time to waste, I get that. But, you can’t change a leopards spots just like you can’t make a lamp cord sound like your latest and greatest cables.
Regards
That is a very partial list of CinDyment’s banned usernames on Audiogon Forums. Here is the full list (although I may be missing a couple):
thespeakerdude
cindyment2
oddioboy
crymeanaudioriver
theaudiomaniac
theaudioamp
deludedaudiophile
thynamesinnervoice
cindyment
snratio
yesiamjohn
sugabooger
dletch2
audio2design
dannad
roberttdid
roberttcan
heaudio123
audiozenology
atdavid
He is currently posting as “thespeakerdude” in there, and very active.
Persistent to say the least.
He definitely likes to argue.
What do you mean by that?!
Anything that has to do with audiophiles or audiophile brands, he will jump in the conversation and argue until he gets the boot, and then register a new name and start all over again.
Sorry, was trying to be funny and the joke did not “translate”.
You know, by being inappropriately sharp/argumentative with my reply…?
Cheers.
I kinda figured that, but you never know with the written word.
I don’t have energy to read whole thread. Are any PSA forum members liking these cables? Or is it a thread of sidetracks? Asking honestly not trying to stir trouble but these cables seem interesting to me though I’ve never heard them
Understandable!
Here’s my story: based on what’s been said in this thread and external reviews, I bought these and am very happy with them. For me, they meant a huge upgrade at a fair price point. Only downside for me is when having them sent to Europe, means additional taxes and a bit of a wait. However, that’s all worth it.
Cool thanks for that. Those cables have many fans
Yes, I’ve been using Silversmith Fidelium for close to a year now. Replaced my Cardas Beyond Clear and the Fideliums are just superior in every way