Itâs Sunday, a good time to play this one.
John Coltrane âA Love Supremeâ Impulse/Universal Japan SHM-SACD UCGQ-9037 (Acoustic Sound Series SACD)
There are so many good sounding issues of this masterwork. This one sounds phenomenal.
Do you mean the SHM or the Analog Productions/AcousticSounds SACD or both? You named two. However both are great on the digital side. The UHQR LP finally is heaven. I also recently started listening to LS again more frequently.
They are the same, the Acoustic Sounds is an SHM-SACD, the catalog number identifies it. I am sure the LP is fantastic but I donât as a general rule buy new LPs. Just not worth the high dollars for me. (I can play an LP in one system, I can play a single-layer or hybrid SACD in all three of my systems).
So itâs an SHM-SACD in the Japanese Acoustic Sounds series.
Description
[Verve Acoustic Sounds SACD Series 2nd Volume] Features SHM-SACD format (single layer) and DSD mastering, using the DSD master produced by the US Verve Label Group in 2019. Cardboard sleeve packaging.
InterestingâŚbut this is a different one:
And they also have this one, which seems to be a third available SACD besides the SHM and the Analog Productions one:
There are even more SACD of this title than those.
The first one you list is an older SACD from Analogue Productions not the newer one produced by Acoustic Sounds that I am listening to; the second one you post is I believe a former Japanese SHM-SACD not an Acoustic Sounds production, either from 2014 or 2010 :
OR
Acoustic Sounds catalog numbers donât help differentiate this one.
Of all the digital versions Iâve heard, which includes the Analogue production, UCGQ-9037 sounds best in my current main system.
Yes, difficult to say for sure.
I just wonder whatâs the role of AcousticSounds for the one you listen to, if it uses a 2019 Verve label group mastering. The one I listet first is at least remastered by Kevin Gray for Analogue ProductionsâŚso it seems the SHM is the Verve labelâs standard mastering (which without naming the mastering engineer as usual for the labelâs own releases, according to Discogs was also used for two LP releases) put on the special SHM disc.
Um . . . thereâs a whole series Acoustic Sounds released, this is in the most recent batch of titles. . . LPs in the US. Universal Japan chose to issue the same series (some of? eventually all?) on SHM-SACDs in Japan. The LPs are mastered by Ryan K. Smith using the original analog master tapes and pressed at QRP. Japan uses the same masterings for the SHM-SACD series.
Hereâs a piece about the first batch:
This is the LP version of the SHM-SACD I was listening to.
Here is the entire LP series. Acoustic Sounds does not seem to stock and sell the SHM-SACD series from Japan, probably a licensing agreement parameter.
These are titles Universal Japan has issued in this series and those that they will issue next month:
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SACDTrio '65 [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Bill Evans Trio
3500yen
US$ 23.40- September 27, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : Trio '65 [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] Bill Evans Trio SACD)
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SACDBill Evans At Town Hall [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release][Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Bill Evans Trio
3500yen
US$ 23.40- July 26, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : Bill Evans At Town Hall [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release][Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] Bill Evans Trio SACD)
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SACDWe Get Requests [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release][Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
The Oscar Peterson Trio
3500yen
US$ 23.40- July 26, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : We Get Requests [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release][Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] The Oscar Peterson Trio SACD)
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SACDOut of the Cool [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Gil Evans Orchestra
3500yen
US$ 23.40- September 27, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UCGQ-9045)
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SACDJohn Coltrane & Johnny Hartman [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
John Coltrane / Johnny Hartman
3500yen
US$ 23.40- September 27, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : John Coltrane & Johnny Hartman [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] John Coltrane / Johnny Hartman SACD)
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SACDStudy In Brown [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Clifford Brown
3500yen
US$ 23.40- June 14, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UCGQ-9034)
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Duke Ellington & John Coltrane [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Duke Ellington/John Coltrane
SACDDuke Ellington & John Coltrane [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Duke Ellington/John Coltrane
3500yen
US$ 23.40- November 29, 2023
- Pre-order
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : Duke Ellington & John Coltrane [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] Duke Ellington/John Coltrane SACD)
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SACDDuke Ellington & Coleman Hawkins [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Duke Ellington / Coleman Hawkins
3500yen
US$ 23.40- September 27, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : Duke Ellington & Coleman Hawkins [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] Duke Ellington / Coleman Hawkins SACD)
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On Impulse! [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Sonny Rollins
SACDOn Impulse! [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Sonny Rollins
3500yen
US$ 23.40- November 29, 2023
- Pre-order
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : On Impulse! [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] Sonny Rollins SACD)
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Louis Armstrong Meets Oscar Peterson [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Louis Armstrong/Oscar Peterson
SACDLouis Armstrong Meets Oscar Peterson [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Louis Armstrong/Oscar Peterson
3500yen
US$ 23.40- November 29, 2023
- Pre-order
Limited Edition
](https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UCGQ-9049)
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SACDThe Black Saint And The Sinner Lady [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release][Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Charles Mingus
3500yen
US$ 23.40- July 26, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release][Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] Charles Mingus SACD)
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SACDElla and Louis [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Ella Fitzgerald
3500yen
US$ 23.40- June 14, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : Ella and Louis [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] Ella Fitzgerald SACD)
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SACDBallade [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
John Coltrane
3500yen
US$ 23.40- June 14, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : Ballade [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] John Coltrane SACD)
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SACDA Love Supreme [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release][Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
John Coltrane
3500yen
US$ 23.40- July 26, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : A Love Supreme [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release][Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] John Coltrane SACD)
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SACDNight Train [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
The Oscar Peterson Trio
3500yen
US$ 23.40- September 27, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : Night Train [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] The Oscar Peterson Trio SACD)
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SACDThe Blues And The Abstract Truth [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release][Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Oliver Nelson
3500yen
US$ 23.40- July 26, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : The Blues And The Abstract Truth [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release][Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] Oliver Nelson SACD)
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SACDGetz / Gilberto [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Stan Getz
3500yen
US$ 23.40- June 14, 2023
- In stock
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : Getz / Gilberto [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] Stan Getz SACD)
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Ella Wishes You A Swinging Christmas [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Ella Fitzgerald
SACDElla Wishes You A Swinging Christmas [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Ella Fitzgerald
3500yen
US$ 23.40- November 29, 2023
- Pre-order
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : Ella Wishes You A Swinging Christmas [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] Ella Fitzgerald SACD)
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SACDTrio '64 [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Bill Evans
3500yen
US$ 23.40- June 14, 2023
- No longer available
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : Trio '64 [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] Bill Evans SACD)
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Smokinâ At The Half Note [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Wes Montgomery/Wynton Kelly Trio
SACDSmokinâ At The Half Note [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)]
Wes Montgomery/Wynton Kelly Trio
3500yen
US$ 23.40- November 29, 2023
- Pre-order
Limited Edition
](CDJapan : Smokin' At The Half Note [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release] [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] Wes Montgomery/Wynton Kelly Trio SACD)
This would indeed be very interesting if true that RK Smith made digital masters, too (the LP masters are usually done during cutting the lacquer only)âŚI know and have several of those LPâsâŚbut they were released in 2021 fist time and the credit on your LS SHM says it uses a 2019 Verve mastering, no 2021 RKS mastering. Where did you read that those SHM are from RKS masters?
Discussions on another board. How can there be a review of the LP from 2020 on the Acoustic Sounds page if this was released in 2022? Donât think so. I personally donât doubt that the master could have been made in 2019. What matters to me is the soundâthis is my favorite digital version.
SureâŚand itâs really interesting for me. When searching for âUCGQ Ryanâ on Discogs, the 2023 SHM (only) appear, the earlier SHM not, those seem to have standard masterings.
But thanks for the hint on this, it rises my opinion of SHM that they at least occasionally use the better remasterings around and not only âstandardâ ones (which can be good, too) pressed on their improved discs. I wasnât aware RKS made digital masters, too, and I wonder that AcousticSounds didnât also release those remasters on SACD in other countriesâŚbut as you say itâs a licensing issue probably. So it makes sense for those who play digital mainly, to keep an eye on SHM and where the masters are from within certain series they do.