2.4.5 released fixes mute

drmark said Do you need a USB cable hooked up to the PC, when you are using the bridge?
No, only an ethernet connection between your network (e.g. switch/router) and the Bridge.

Paul,

I have loaded the frimware 2.4.5 today. It sounds fine. But I lost control of the Filter. Sample rate, Input, Phase and Mute are working. Previous I was using 2.4.3.

CPLD 1.09

Bridge version 0.2.15a

Kind regards, Maarten

Paul McGowan said We were hoping to release this with the pops and ticks gone but decided to release it without that fixed - as we've yet to nail the cause. As you know it only happens on some systems, and not on most. I know that doesn't make those whose systems it happens on feel good, but that's the fact of the matter.
Paul, any news concerning The Ticks and pops fix project?

You’re not on 2.4.6?

audiobill said You're not on 2.4.6?
Why do you ask? 2.4.6 (and 2.4.5) do not solve the ticks and pops issue!

No ticks or pops in many systems…perhaps the perceived issue you’re experiencing lies somewhere else in your system?

audiobill said No ticks or pops in many systems.....perhaps the perceived issue you're experiencing lies somewhere else in your system?
If you don't know the story behind my question, it's better not to interfere on such a matter, because it's only causing unnecessary noise. More people stated that they have ticks and pops when changing samplerate. In fact, PS Audio already started a while ago the Ticks and pops fix project. I'm asking Paul after the status of this project.

Oh, I’m very familiar…the phrasing of your question begged a response.

Interfere? This is a public discussion forum!

Easy, fellas. Keep the pistols in their holsters and have another round of sarsaparilla on me. :)

For me 2.0.2 seems to be the least severe, have you tried that version and is the sound to your liking? For me it’s not as revealing, but it does have a richness that the 2.4.x versions lack. Some folks have the issue only when they use Native X, which is worth trying. Then again, the issue does persist on 2.4.6/Native. I haven’t listenened much at all since upgrading but did get a pop today on sample rate change.

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In all different settings (firmware, Native/NativeX, Bridge, USB) I’m experiencing to a greater or lesser extent the ticks and pops. The loudest ticks and pops are when changing to a higher samplerate. PS Audio already acknowledged the problem a year ago. So far no new firmware that solved the issue. It’s taking too long in my opinion, that’s why I’m asking Paul after the status of the Ticks and pops fix project.

I’m willing to upgrade to a DirectStream DAC (that probably solves the problem?!) at a competitive discount. clapping_gif

The questions of tics and pops are not restricted to the PWD.

There are comments all over the net [google ticks and pops] that give some insight into the problem, possible causes as well as possible fixes. On the JRMC site they warn about the buffer settings, some of which cause TnPs to be heard through the system.

I know this may not immediately solve your [and others] problem but it might.

I suspect player software as the main culprit as there are so many variables across the user systems and I have yet to see any pattern.

If your dac is under warranty then perhaps a trip to your dealer might get you some assistance.

It might be interesting to see if the same problems occur at the dealer or perhaps a friend’s hous as this might help youir process of elimination.

Ticks and pops…interesting…I seem to be reviving a few old threads at the moment. I have finally had the opportunity to listen to my beautiful system for so few days straight and have had some frustrating things pop up (that will be a Segway…)

Firstly, I could get my elyric server recognised by the EMM on my Ipad 2 (which is never to be upgraded from IOS 7 as it’s the dedicated PWD remote!) - but no matter what I tried, the PWD MkII (bridge 2.15a, PWD v2.4.3) would not appear. I tried LAN reboot after reboot, PWD reboot after reboot, disconnected everything, started again and nothing! The unit showed Green / Amber at the Ethernet connection, and an active bridge onboard, but there was no way it would talk to my server. Day 1, no music, just my OCD attempts and major frustration. At least I didn’t resort to kicking it. So, day 2, I thought I’d give JRiver a go - and downloaded a demo. Immediate success!! There it was and listen to that music, honey to my ears. I checked EMM in the hope it may be working…no joy… So, I decided JRiver might be my only option, bought the JRMD for Ipad (the remote) and listened to a few tunes.

Day 3, returned from a day away and noticed the PWD power cord was out of the wall…vacuuming must happen…anyway, being the highly strung individual I am, I reacted poorly… Hindsight is a wonderful thing, regardless, it was an unhappy night in our household. I was annoyed thinking that all the hard work I’d done to get the system working might be gone (very unrealistic for me to think the whole system could stay on 352 days a years, 24hrs a day. In my annoyed state that’s exactly what I thought! No music that night…

Day 4, when I got a chance I went down the old reboot 50x path…everything over and over…nothing!! I even tried a cold reload of JRiver. I’m no expert on JRiver, so if anyone has had a similar experience and knows the fix, please let me know…anyway, in desperation, I tried Elyric again, and guess what - the stink’n PWD appeared! Now I don’t know what has changed, I do know that EMM has been rock solid for 2 days now (admittedly I frequently do a Upnp reset or DAC friendly name change, but that is beside the point, it works!). Consequently, I have listened to more music in the last few days (currently injured and family is away so I don’t have anything else to do) than I have for years!

Which brings me to my latest frustrating discovery…ticks and pops - to be exact a ‘tick’ through my tweeters (predominantly I think it is my right channel), but it is very noticeable, annoying and given the cost of my speakers, a tad concerning. At first I thought my preamp was amplifying a power line click when the fridge was going on and off…so I disconnected it and went direct from PWD to my amps…‘tick’ you beauty, it’s not the pre I though…so I put the amps on different power points, and filtered the PWD…‘tick’ wtf is going on here I thought? Now, I have been away for quite awhile, nomadic if you like, so until I did a search, I didn’t even know 2.4.6 had been released (it’s now loaded btw). I also was unaware of the ticks and pops project at PSAudio…In case anyone wonders, I don’t find it pleasant nor romanticise the vinyl like aspects of this. If I want vinyl ticks and pops, I’ll put an LP on my record player. I don’t want this in my very expensive DAC.

Currently, I am avoiding NativeX and Native (it appears in both) which is disappointing as NX in particular sounds very good. I am listening in 44 atm. If I wanted to do that I’d buy a schiit uber usb or something and cut my losses on the Ethernet aspects.

I have had exceptional (in fact unbelievable) support from PSA in the past, so I hope all of us PWD MkII owners who are making large compromises using this device are looked after by the ‘ticks and pops project’.

After re-reading that it sounds like a rant doesn’t it!? I just want to listen to beautiful music :)

Well I can’t knock this in 44.1, this thing is liquid honey…Due to my nomadic existence, my MkII is not even burnt in yet (fitted it in 2012, all up MAYBE 20hrs)… And it sounds like liquid honey at the moment… Thanks team PSA!

Talked to soon…now the server has decided to disappear…no music here :(

And back…another couple of resets aggghhhh.

new interesting quirk, I select a song, it plays through the PWD, although the EMM is showing it playing another song… Part way through play back it will then switch over to this new song…unsure of the ‘tick’ at this stage at 44.1 as I haven’t been able to listen to a song for long enough… We’ll see, it seems to be settling down again. Talk about idiosyncratic!

With JRMC sometimes you just have to wait a while before the Bridge shows up. Sometimes it never does and rebooting the software is required (I still have to reboot JRMC 20 Mac sometimes even with Bridge 2 but it’s the software, not the hardware; mostly if left alone it just keeps working). Sometimes rebooting the hardware is required. Bridge 2 is MUCH better at maintaining a connection. eLyric is so out of date I’m surprised when I hear people are still using it (great features but a lot of issues even when it was being supported), but you’re not alone in doing so.

The tick is now a distinct pop. Narrowing it down, it sounds like a relay triggers in the PWD that manifests itself as a loud ‘pop’ in one of my tweeters… I’m hoping this is not going to do damage. Now that I think I have narrowed down, I’ll pm the team.