Anybody following the MOFI "One Step" fiasco?

Glad you had a good experience. I got a couple of vinyl recordings from his shop, and would have had to pay for the shipping to get reasonably better quality. Not saying it should be his problem, just that that was my experience, and it shouldn’t be me that pays for quality problems (in any way…imho). That is the records didn’t meet my reasonable, non-super-anal, expectations.

…more reasons to support your local brick and mortar! :partying_face:

Yes, this Mofi story was the point where I thought if, why often vinyl from digital is better sounding than the digital itself is, because a higher resolution format is cut too vinyl than present on the equivalent CD or DSD64/SACD releases.

It think it may be one reason but not the only one, as even in case of some ECM recordings or similar, differences are audible and both are from the same resolution sources. But those differences (if there are no further mixing/mastering differences) are relatively small.

In case of the One Steps, differences of the vinyl to the SACD are really very noticable. The whole DSD256 recording practice will probably be the death of physical media for audiophiles finally. I guess labels will have to put their high resolution master formats for sale to shorten or eliminate the gap to the vinyl releases‘ quality.

In case anyone is enjoying my techie line of thought this morning, this also occurs to me. If you’re not enjoying it, please skip:

The most purist thing of the type we’re talking about here is Direct to Disc. In that process it is possible to simultaneously record, mix, “master”* and cut to lacquer - live, all in the analog domain. The ultimate analog end-to-end process.

In the typical record-making process, those four things would all be done on different days, often by different people and in different locations. In this context, whether a “mastering chain” is “all analog” or not has nothing to do with how the other processes are acheived. You could digitally record your music, mix it to 2-track analog tape, bring it to a Mastering House and they could use their all analog mastering chain to do a fully analog master-and-cut-to-disc process. If you bring them a mix on a digital format, they’ll often convert to analog to go through their costly and transparent/awesome-sounding analog hardware mastering EQs and assorted other devices to tweak what needs tweaking.

Indeed, Digital Purists may be offended by the notion that their pristine, all-digital recordings are being converted to analog and back at the mastering house.:stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

  • I put master in quotes there because the “master” is simply the mix coming off the board live to the cutter - though possibly through some nice outboard gear doing EQ and so on in between.
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Yes indeed we can be fooled by production phase descriptions which were compromised or broken at a previous step. If this broken previous step was done even by the same people doing the later ones, a lack of transparency is rather intentional than difficult to avoid :wink:

The best in the whole story is, that in their marketing, Mofi puts the term „ultra analog“ in the foreground of their digitally broken process. What a mess.

He takes a realist’s approach, and makes plenty of sense. That said his message is protracted at 24 minutes.

In case anyone is interested, Fremer posted a two part series on Mofi. I wasn’t aware of the history so I enjoyed it.

Part 1

Part 2

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OCD Mikey’s take… :innocent:

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“Vinyl is a lossy format that is pulled off of tape.”

A “hot take”, if I have ever heard one.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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The internet didn’t really make things better or easier for those who need orientation :wink:

That’s exactly the line that jumped out at me too. :roll_eyes:

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Kassem is doing that livestream thing right now w/ Michael 45. I was expecting bigger news, but it’s cool and somewhat interesting.

I thought Michael 45 was Fremer under a new, post-analog planet, pseudonym. That’s been the biggest take away for me. Haha

I’m just watching the 45 RPM interview with Analogue Productions Chad Kassem

I admire the man, he refuses to give any criticism of MoFi, hasn’t mentioned them at all, only driven home exactly what Analogue Productions work ethos and standards are.

Very respectable.

And yes, he’s driven home that they work direct from original masters without any digital layer, and if not they highlight it very clearly in all material.

Yeah, Chad/AP are looking good, so far, in this “scandal.”

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The truth doesn’t hurt the quality product that has already been enjoyed for years. It would be a shame if the enjoyment can’t be had any longer for being the same as it always was.

What’s really transpiring from the fiasco is that people often care about the mastering process, and want the details that distinguish differences we might notice. Rightfully so.

I still consider some of Mofi records I have top-notch quality and sounding. Going forward if they are being transparent and keep cranking out well-done LPs and SACDs, also if price is reasonable, I would still consider buying Mofi for sure. In the end, it is the music that matters.

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Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan of AP and like what Chad said. But Mike didn’t have a good control of this streaming session, instead he let Chad keeps talking about his passion, products.
Nothing is wrong what he said. But, that video was not an interview nor discussion. It’s more like a promotion video for the AP.

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^^^
Sounds like it fits in just fine with almost everything on YouTube.

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Yeah, most of these interviews cross over into Infomercials.

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