Center image WAS driving me crazy!

Beautiful work, Luca!


I am a big fan of “near-field” listening setups like yours.

My speakers are pretty close to my listening position as well.

I have a suggestion for you regarding the subwoofers:

Since they have front firing transducers, please try angling them toward your listening position.

When properly integrated, I have found subs to have some directionality at the upper-lower frequencies and they can sound better angled out of the corners.

You may have to fiddle around with the level settings a bit, but you may be rewarded with a smoother overall LF response.



Thanks Scott.

I’m pointing the subs towards the listening position and I agree with you, it can impact the low frequencies bringing them forward and creating a more immersive feeling that seemed a little bit detached before.
I use to keep them at 50/65 Hz range and at a very low level volume, because they work wonderfully to recreate a realistic image of spaciousness but in this new set up they are filling better the space. A few tests with different crossover settings will keep me busy during the next hours to fine tune them.

Great idea, thanks.


Looking at your pictures and set up again, prompted one more thought:

Given your proximity to the speakers and the room treatments, it strikes me that your loudspeaker positioning begs for some extended trial listening with the speakers pointed straight ahead (no toe-in).

Have you had a chance to listen at length with no toe-in yet?

I am thinking the on-axis design/response and associated nominal specifications of your speakers MAY be such that you will get “optimal” performance from your speakers if you point them straight ahead.

Won’t hurt to try…?



Don’t you just love others trying to live vicariously through your system?




Thank you Scott, my system is your system!

Sonus faber recommends pointing the speakers to ears, but I never liked this set up. I always preferred straight to rear wall with just minimal toe in. The inner foot 1/2 inch back the outer foot.
More vivid and realistic center image, larger soundstage (guitars sometimes go on the sidewall). Vocal singers well focused and defined, maybe a raw or two forward the listening position. Better bass, less pronounced than keeping speakers more toe in.

Tonight I’ll try reducing further the toe in until just right straight ahead to find out what happens. Stay tuned.

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Well, then, I am likely mistaken about their “on-axis” design/specifications and nominal performance.

Still might be enlightening to try…


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Hey scotte1 just curious …what is the “SEE” often used in your posts?

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Thanks scotte1

Best wishes

Scott Extremely Excellent.

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Thanks, “V”. Your check is in the mail.

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You have tons of diffusion in front of you. More than I’ve ever seen with your music stacks doing way more than the Gothams (?). Diffusion and bass traps can’t be too present (unless the room is dead…for bass traps), imho.

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My aim was to solve mainly a few problems:

  1. A window door on the right wall
  2. An open access to stairways on the left wall
  3. A lack of symmetry

I designed a solution following a concept of sliding wooden panels, able to cover side walls during listening sessions and to be moved on their axes if needed. Each “wooden door” was then covered with a custom made acoustic panel. This has an internal membrane able to act as a bass trap but only for low frequencies and it sports metal frames on which diffuser panels with magnetic hooks can be applied as desired.

I experimented also keeping the sliding panels separated, it means like naked walls with panels here and there. I’m sure a continuum wall made from panels works far better. As for side walls I’m totally satisfied. The magnetic diffusers can be applied in different positions, in different quantities and it’s very fun trying and experiment for different solutions. Free to easily change this set up on the way.

Point 1 and 2 have been solved with a great result. I was afraid this would have generated a dead room due to the amount of absorption on the side walls. Guess what? The room now is more airy than before when I had lots of objects and chaotic stuff all around. It really breathes more than ever. You can realize that just hearing the human voice, when I speak without music, inside the room now is sounding totally natural without artifacts, lack of reverb and other issues.

As for lots of diffusion on the front wall I was more confident about results, having had LPs stacked in my previous set up for years. I had the opportunity to test, during refurbishment days, the front wall totally naked, just the wall so to speak. Due to the size of the room and especially a low ceiling it doesn’t work at all. Front wall definitely needs treatment IME. I personally designed the furniture, with the aim of creating a perfect symmetry (of course) and putting 2 bass traps exactly behind the speakers, equipped with the same technology as the side walls panels, so also in that case I’m able to apply on them magnetic diffusers and to change on the way their quantity and position. I finally found a combination that I like.
As for LPs and CDs I studied their distribution, with 2 raws of CDs in vertical that contributes to boost the center image towards the hight meanwhile the Gotham diffusor is reinforcing the singer’s voice in the center. I found that LPs may also act as absorbers, not only diffusing the sound.

Generally speaking the cosmetically result helped (lights especially) a lot to fool my brain, recreating a better phantom image, more realistic and pleasant, letting the speaker completely disappear.

Last week the MSB importer who installed in my system their DAC, after a few hours playing music to fine tune the new unit, said that he was impressed by the sound that the room is able to produce. He concurred that it’s almost impossible to have a perfect room (and he has seen hundreds of good and bad ones) but in my case the tonality is correct, well balanced. He’s a seller, so take it with a grain of salt!

I really don’t know if I got all the right choices or something would have been done different, as always I can probably improve this or that. My actual pleasure and engagement is surely improved and it’s the most important thing after all the effort and money I have spent.

My thought? APPROVED! I’m more concerned about music from now on.

Thanks for your comment.


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How close is your chair to the speakers?

Looks like about 4 feet

I think you mentioned your distance between speakers and ear-to-speaker distance before…as I remember, they were 8-9 feet

Hi Akro,

7.5 ft ear to speaker and a little bit less tweeter to tweeter, on my side of the world is 2,3 mt. and 2,10 mt.


It is probably time to change the title of this post to: “Center image WAS driving me crazy!”


Done, right now! Thanks.


Gorgeous room and set-up! Looks like you have your pre-amp on the rack with long interconnects to the mono-blocks. Presumably XLRs? Which ones do you use and how long are they? (apologies if you have already described this previously).

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Thanks, yes amplification is separated from BHK Pre and sources. I love Iconoclast XLRs UPOCC and they sound glorious even if longer. In my case 26 ft.

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If I ever move my rack out of center, then Iconoclast XLRs will be the way to go. I can not imagine how expensive a pair of AQ topline will cost. :open_mouth:

My center image in fine since the vocal is above the rack level. If I change to a pair of smaller speakers then I may have a center issue.