Hey Joe (New Octave release)

My understanding is it’s a reissue in a higher resolution. The description in todays Copper refers to it as a reissue so I am making that assumption, I may be wrong if a DSD is already out there

Right. The album was originally released in 2015 and is available on Qobuz and Tidal, but only as a CD quality. This is the first time the direct to master version from the DSD master has been released, as well, it’s been remastered by our own Gus Skinas.

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I ordered my copy as soon as I saw the email announcement. Being a remastered, hi-res re-release, this represents a kind of change in direction for Octave, doesn’t it? I’m not complaining by any means - I would love to see any number of prior releases get this treatment. But all the talk I’ve seen about Octave has focused on new music recorded specifically for release by the label. Are you broadening your mission statement, or have I just been asleep? :wink:

We’re still in full swing with new music recordings. There are a few DSD masters we have access to if we can work out licensing deals. This was one of them. Otis is tied up with labels and distributors so it took a small act of congress to get this released.

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I’ve downloaded the digital copies and listening now from lowest to highest resolution (I started with the 24x96, not bothering with the 24x44.1). The recording and sound quality is very good on the first version I’ve heard (again, 24x96), but more than anything else this is the first Octave recording that I am really enjoying. It’s purely a matter of taste and nothing against the other two, but the blues-infusion jazz of Otis Taylor’s record moves me far more than the other two. Very enjoyable.

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Hi @Paul

With new music recordings, are they being recorded at DSD128?

If you get a chance can you please reply here:

I usually just go for the jugular and play the DSD version!! I just want to enjoy the recording to the fullest from the beginning. I don’t even need the other versions since I don’t listen to them anyway. I wish Paul or whoever makes the decision on how the record is release to go back to the beginning when you get two disc, one SACD and one data disc. Right now, I’m enjoying the heck of this recording on DSD file. Incredible sounding!!

I was REALLY hoping Resurrection Blues was on this release… great track & a soundstage tickler.

I listened to it again and it’s not bad. My son might like it as well. Bought the vinyl, it’s DMM and 45rpm double album, from Amazon £19.20 delivered, about $25. Can’t have too much vinyl.

The problem we ran into is that the SACD house in Austria does not also do DVD data discs. Which meant that we had to separately produce the DVD disc then hand insert every disc into the SACD jacket, a process that was mind numbingly tedious (Gus did each one by hand).

If we can figure out how to do both and get them prepackaged we’d be happy to go back to that.

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@waymanchen11 in general I agree with you - I’m going to play the best version I have. However, one thing I’ve been trying to do for a while but with very little success (without spending extra money) is to sound test different formats (resolutions) of the same recording.

I find it really hard to find a DSD and a PCM of the identical version of a record. Or a 24x96 and 24x192 of the same version without paying twice for it. More often than not when a new hi-res version of an album comes out it is usually a ‘remastering’ meaning it isn’t the same version and therefore not valid for doing comparisons of formats. The Hey Joe download gave me my first real shot at comparing formats without hitting my wallet. I think the only other opportunity in my personal library is Muddy Waters’ Folk Singer which I have the original CD and then the 24x192 digital copy. Everything else tends to be a remastering and twiddling with the sound board dials.

So yes I wholeheartedly agree with you, I’ll play the DSD going forward (probably the digital sourced version), but appreciated the opportunity PSA gave me to experiment listening this time.

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The reason I just go to the DSD version is because from the last release (Temporary Circumstances), I tried all the different versions except the 16bit which it didn’t come in, and found DSD is the way to go! There was little doubt it was the best version and closest to top end vinyl in my opinion.

So the vinyl turns up and on the back it says recorded using Gus Skinas Sonoma multitrack. It was then mixed and mastered by some other guys and the 24/96 master was used to transfer to vinyl.

It’s a good sounding pressing.

I wonder why it is only on Qobuz in 16/44 PCM when there is a 24/96 master. Strange.

This is a really cool album. The recording is great!

Seems to be alot of bass which I like.

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Ordered this Otis Taylor SACD on Nov 18th. It was shipped out on the 19th and here on the 27th, over a week later, it has still not arrived. Even though I paid $7 for shipping, I have a sense that this item was sent USPS Media Mail - the very cheapest way possible. Why is delivery so slow?

Ordered on 15th; shipped on 18th; arrived today.

I ordered on the 15th and it took until the 25th, 10 full days, to get to me in Indianapolis. Not great, but certainly not horrible. It’s out of PSA’s control, though, unless they want to charge more for premium shipping services, or make less on each sale. Keep in mind they’re not the mass merchandisers other record stores are, let alone something like Amazon.

Been listening off and on for a few days. This is the best release of the three so far, subjectively speaking - in terms of the music. Recording quality is excellent as well.

Interestingly, I am finding that Tracks 11-20 on the SACD [(the “vinyl needle drop to DSD from the original 45 RPM DMM (Direct Metal Master) release”] to be the most enjoyable overall.

So if I understand, it’s gone 24/96 PCM > vinyl > DSD?

The vinyl is very good.