Magico Magic (and unrelated matters)

During the summer school holidays in the 1960’s all the family would go and live with my mum’s auntie at Drumnadochit. Great memories of that time. Camping trips to Glen Urquhart, sleeping on the shore of Loch ness. Completely unspoiled land… As for Whiskey. Wasted on me. I don’t drink any alcohol not even wine.

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Hi Jazznut, I looked on their WEB-site and it occurs to me that the measuring units analyse the HF signal locally and take out the repeating noise, like my noise cancelling phones do the best job on the constant engine noise in the airplane. That is still considerable improvement I guess.

To me it sounds like less snake oil than magic wooden blocks or crystal glass absorbers.

I also tried to get some intel on cost, and it occurred to me that you had a good reason to post this in this money no object thread. On a forum I found that the basic system units are EUR 4000. Not the earthshaking above 100k cables reported way above in this thread, and expect way more effective.

I like all area’s of Scotland :black_flag:󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 and it’s indeed not about Whisky only. The rich culture and history, dramatic at times, proud and friendly people, and amazing nature and landscapes.
It’s certainly worth visiting.

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During our Holiday back in the 70’s we drove from Fort Williams North allying the opposite shore of Loch Ness. The road was following every ditch in the Landscape and made us sea sick sitting as kids on the back seat of the car. But it is indeed beautiful up there.

Robert Urquhart (not the castle on Loch Ness’s shores) and his Highland Light Infantry division, fought bravely here close to Oosterbeek where a Museum about operation Market Garden is located in his Headquarters during that battle. According to Wikipedia he lived close to Perth (Scotland) after the wars where ha passed away. He was played by Sean Connery (fellow Scotsman) in the movie “A bridge too far”.

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Well, you can go there:

https://www.monoandstereo.com/2014/12/250000-eur-schnerzinger-audio-cable.html

I just can say, even more than the HF protection, the cabling will get you further than you’d expect. You’ll get characteristics at the same time of which you thought they are either/or. You’ll be ready to change every part of your setup, except this cabling and the HF treatments.

As far as I understand the HF system and cables go hand in hand as the HF system allows the HF noise to leave the audio components through the Schnerzinger system.
Just to explore how deep this rabbit hole is:
On the pictures I noticed the power cables to the HF units seem to be regular wiring, wouldn’t it make sense … ? Anyway, interesting to see where technology can take us.

Apart from the budget, all system pictures utilizing the Schnerzinger technology looked like the pictures of the Russian Radio spy / radio interception station on the Brocken at the former Iron Curtain between East and West Germany. Just in miniature format. Those who like that landscape agree, the Harz Mountains look way better without it, and so does my living room I am afraid.

I see you read into the matter :wink:

Most of the stuff is independent (e.g. room, equipment and power grid devices), part is connected (HF devices used on cabling).

The HF units should be power connected to the non Hifi power line and the power cabling to them doesn’t play a role as with the Hifi signal components. You can get more Info if interested by reading the online manuals.

Your remark regarding the final look of those rooms was spot on :wink: But it’s possible to hide/darken the stuff more or less. You will find ways once you experienced the step you make :wink:

Yes you are right, like I admire most of the stuff in this thread as an engineer seeing what is technically possible it is a magnificent well thought through system, coming back on the price, I trust that the 250k on such system is better spent money than 186k on a speaker cable only.

And if somebody has that budget to spend on a cable system, that person might as well have a dedicated listening room with speakers positioned perfectly and nothing more to wish for on their high end components.

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Yeah, fortunately 250k is not the entry point to this :wink:

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So until someone shows up with his decent setup, we just can enjoy public audio porn like the fundament of worlds largest horn or some other freaky stuff. See some “real” power conditioners of refridgerator size at the end.

big_horn vue-listening_room
Speakers_from_rich_dude French_guys_amps French_sys_update2 onduleurs_conditioner

Depending on the power capacity and type of sustainable energy source like solar panels you operate private you need those power conditioners to be allowed to hook up the sources to the electrical power distribution of your premises in case that is connected to the main power grid, which is applicable in most cases in Europe unless you have a lodge in very remote area‘s.

This forum really needs better thread management.

Also, TBH I only read Brodric’s OP. Brodric and I share a lot in common I guess. Namely serious about audio performance. I too have mainly ditched PS Audio. Brodric, I have no clue why you ordered a P20. A P20 nearly killed $600,000 of equipment here without warning. I wanted to hear the TSS. Now that I know you are serious if I wanted to sell it to you I would let the loaded Select DAC II go to you for $85K. However the point is moot because I am done with PSA. Therefore I am not selling it right now. So what if by some chance the TSS is better and tomorrow it quits.

That being said, I had the Q1’s for a while. Super competent speakers. There is a reason they cost what they do. No, it is not markup either. They are great “monitors”. Not my cup of tea. I like highly colored stuff. Like Grado headphones if you get what I mean. So my end game was the Sonus Faber Ex3ma. Also highly colored to my liking. Hey, save the money on an equalizer! Joking of course. I do have a flagship system but I really like to ‘play’ with standmounts and little sub. I do not think many people would find this system lacking in any area

Brodric is correct. First spend your money on speakers. Although do not get $10,000 speakers and a $500 receiver duh. Even so, nothing will affect the sound more than speakers. However past some point you will want room treatment and isolation. There are so many good speakers out there it all depends what you like and what your budget is. Magico is very true to source, even pressed hard. So are others of course. If that is your bag. I guess something special about Magico is how incredibly rigid the cabinet is. Almost no internal reflections. I still did not dig it. That is a huge YMMV though.

I know this posting comes very late here but better late than never?

So here you are…and in the right thread for following Brodric (who’s lost) with big boys hifi matters…we excitedly observe the joys and problems of such setups, so 600k gear needs further differentiation :wink:

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I do not understand what you mean? I had a bunch of stuff plugged into a P20 at 120V and it let out like 300V or something. It is in another thread somewhere. There was no surge. The P20 itself decided to do it! What do you mean he is lost? I have never, ever had another brand fail so consistently! Also, do you mean I am not welcome?

Sorry, a lot of misunderstandings 2chan.

You are absolutely welcome. As this is a thread where Brodric presented his expensive gear, we are all (or at least some) very interested in someone doing the same again here.
Brodric himself was blocked from the forum it seems, so this is what I meant with “he’s lost”.

Sorry I didn’t reference your P20 problem, but I can’t contribute anything to it.

Maybe you should tell about your 600k setup here in this Magico thread (if you like) and put your P20 problem into this one:

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I agree with @jazznut. I will never own gear that expensive, but I like reading about others who have dream systems and what their impressions are. I used to indulge this fantasy when HP was around running the Absolute Sound. I still do occasionally indulge, generally by dropping into JS Audio in Bethesda MD, which stages nice events (and also serves good wine). So I second @jazznut’s comment above.

Agreed - all systems are interesting, small or large, cheap or dear, and seeing the odd mega system now and then is included in that and affords us all an opportunity to hear thoughts and comments about something we would otherwise not have a chance to experience:)

Why was Brodric banned? See I had said elsewhere, you walk a fine line here to disrespect PS Audio Equipment. I never disrespected them. In fact I applaud them. I feel Paul and company have achieved the American dream. I have enough money that I do not mind the failures. Honestly, it is probably just my luck. I never play the lottery.

The $600K is my “little” system!" The flagship theater buildout might be $15MM or so. I am not trying to brag though. In fact I hate bragging. We live a very secluded life style. I have to “vet” my kids friends. Anyways Stereo in general is plagued with gremlins. Probably why I like super cars too. “More money, more problems”. Not exactly what Jay-Z meant but along those lines.

I just do not care to speak bad about PS Audio. Not only is it their forum but it really is not a big deal to me. In fact I still love their stuff. It is like my Burmester 069 and the belt keeps coming off. Whatever. These things do not bother me that much.

Brodric was not banned. He has chosen not to post.

ROFL!!! ‘Inglourious Braggerds’ anyone? For sure my favourite slapstick comedy… wish I could watch it in your $1,5MM theater. So full of envy, man! But yo, I hate bragging too, braggards bring out the worst in me (evil grin)… on the other hand they may have serious mental problems and are rather to be pitied.

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