P10. Do I need an esoteric power cable or not?


#1

Hi Folks,

I have a new P10 ordered and on the way. In other forums I have read that the P10 can benefit from both and upgraded power cable and even a line filter before the P10.

95% of me says that these goodies aren’t required. The reason I say that is because the P10 completely isolates the load from the incoming commercial power when it regenerates its own sinewave or other waveforms and amplifies that waveform for delivery to the load. Other than having low enough resistance to pass the commercial power without restriction, I can’t see any benefit to pre-filtering the input to the P10 or adding an exotic line cord to it. While I can’t, I know that some people can hear the differences between brands of fuses and, for that matter, brands of solder used in the construction of equipment or cables.

What are your thoughts on the subject?

Also, some of my equipment has its power supplied through a large 3000 kva UPS with sinewave output due to the up and down nature of my local power. Is there any reason not to put the P10 on one of the UPS outputs?

Thanks much!


#2

No, as long as the UPS isn’t the double conversion type that is outputting a “clean” sine wave. The type of UPS that passes perfectly what the wall delivers and then kicks in only when there’s a power outage is the kind to go for - and that type is the cheapest.

Then you’re good and plenty of people do this.


#3

Paul,

Thanks for the information. My UPS is not of the double conversion variety so I should be good to go.

Your thoughts on the pros and cons of an esoteric power cord?


#4

Many find a power cord to be worthwhile. Try one that you can return and see what you hear.


#5

Good point.


#6

Yes, the P10 strongly benefits from a very good power cable. I’m using JPS Labs Aluminata AC cable which is one of the best power cables on the market IMO. Awesome sound; high resolution, black background and lots of dynamics…


#7
Arcus7 said Yes, the P10 strongly benefits from a very good power cable. I'm using JPS Labs Aluminata AC cable which is one of the best power cables on the market IMO. Awesome sound; high resolution, black background and lots of dynamics..
Save your money and make your own. Can easily be built for $100 or less. Personally I don't believe a cord can color the sound. Just make it thick and with good connectors.

#8

I’m not a big believer in hearing angels sing from power cords, but I do think it is worth getting one that is well made and does not introduce problems. If you can make one, more power to you. So to speak. Sorry, pun was not intended. For my purposes, I have been very pleased with Decware, MAC (really the same thing), PS Audio, and Cerious power cords. The first two seem pretry good on low current source boxes, and they’re made by people who understand that clean power matters.
On the back of the P5 (don’t know about the P10), the Cerious Graphene barrel is too fat to be the wall power cord along side another Cerious cord in the first HC socket. The PS Audio cord seems to fit better. From a price-value perspective, hard to beat the Cerious, and Bob Grost is a gentleman.


#9
palerider said

…On the back of the P5 (don’t know about the P10), the Cerious Graphene barrel is too fat to be the wall power cord along side another Cerious cord in the first HC socket. The PS Audio cord seems to fit better…


P3 doesn’t have that issue. There is about 5 inches of clearance between the IEC input and Zone D output.

#10
brodricj said
palerider said ...On the back of the P5 (don't know about the P10), the Cerious Graphene barrel is too fat to be the wall power cord along side another Cerious cord in the first HC socket. The PS Audio cord seems to fit better...

P3 doesn’t have that issue. There is about 5 inches of clearance between the IEC input and Zone D output.


Yep, I know. I have a P3 as well, and its layout has more in common with the P10 which I looked at online. The differences between the devices are clearly discernible online. The non-US P5 also does not have the issue.

#11

In my experiments several years ago. The power cord feeding the P10 made less sonic difference than the power cord from the P10 feeding the components. I would not spend a ton of money on a cord to the P10. Go with a PSA AC 12 cord. In my experience home brewed cables sound good, but not great.