P20 and P15 Impressions &amp; Review

For the last few days, I have been playing around with @vmax newest tweak, a 3M 7050 RFI/EMI absorbent tuning ring. I have tried a 1.5” ring on PCs and I didn’t really hear much difference. Now I use a 3” long ring and the tuning ring works!

In my system the most improvement was made on Cullen Crossover2 pc connecting to BHK Pre, the music simply flows smoother with more energy, as if the musical notes gained 10% weight (in a good way). It made a similar improvement when I switched to a Purist Audio Colossus Rev. B PC. But, when I add rings to Stealth V10, Silnote Orion M1 Ref. and Zaffino OCC Silver Dart, the effect is smaller. in fact, too many rings may not necessarily be a good thing, I played mostly the DCC Elvis gold CD (which is better than my SACD copy btw) during these tests. When adding three or more rings to the system the music became too heavy, and Elvis sounded like he had a cold. My final try was to put a 3" long ring on the AQ Dragon, here it simply made the sound worse.

My conclusion is the ring would help in tuning for sure if it is placed in the right combination of the PC and gears. Two or more rings may help or may not depend on the systems too. The best location of the ring is closer to the male connector which is consistent with finding from vmax.

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Arenith

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@dchang05
If you haven’t yet, you guys might be interested in considering a Schumann resonator.
Why it can work, it might have to do with the effect on the listener and the equipment both.
All electronics ever have been designed and constructed under the influence of the Earth’s field (and we’re all born under it too) so it’s natural that stabilizing its average frequency in the room can affect the performance of electronics and our nervous system too.
(This is why a 100% mu-metal coverage would not be a good idea in any case)

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joe-appierto

I use an Acoustic Revive RR-777 Ultra Low Frequency Pulse Generator together with a KingRex MK2 PSU. The thing it seems to affect the most is the soundstage which becomes fuller/more dimensional when it’s turned on.

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Arenith

Named with the Creator’s signature number, right!

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I appreciate your eagerness to try the tweak and sharing your results I have had lots of success using rings on the Whispers and the whisper Elite power cables. I actually found the Elite the AB7050HF tuning ring you can go from warm bass thick sound with strident highs nearer the female Iec to an articulated bass with more balance at one index finger from where the cable starts entering the backshell. The number of wraps and being snugged to cable changes sound more. My rings are two inches wide by 8.25 rectangle laying flat. the sheet then wrapped snuggly in a tight ring two to three times thickness of a single sheet. It is like having an infinite selection of power cords. I credit this tweak to @aangen stealth dream loan cable! My previous attempts at absorber on cable I tried wrapping the plugs. Moving it up and down the cable really was the enlightenment.

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Elk

These come up a lot, often with your involvement. See, e.g.,

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Yes, and back then I was certainly wrong at the start in thinking it should be blocked - then came comments on the resonator devices and I had to realize it’s of course beneficial to have it, and even amplify it.
Now, I think that holding a steady resonance in the listening room will still be affected by local changes in the Earth’s Schumann resonances. If these devices monitored the local activity and compensated to keep it even in the room, might be even better. Possibly.

(Just noticed an abundance of “if”, “could”, “might”, “possibly”, “maybe”, etc, when perusing my writing… It is certainly a possibility that I might possibly be an idealist, if that’s the right word, could be.)

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One of these days I may have get a Whisper to try. it seems the ring works well with it (them). Right now I do not plan to increase my abundant cable collection though.

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20 DAYS LATER

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When visiting TX Tomahawk steaks for two will be on menu, but $300 is not going to cut it anywhere anymore.

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I have never tried a Tomahawk steak it says they are from Kansas City. But doing a Google search it appears Flemming’s in Plano is closest with 35 oz ribye for two special. No quote on what the special price is. What establishment do you find them at in TX?

The Mrs has a birthday this week. A steak sounds like a must.

BTW.

I went back and listened to entire Whisper Power Cable Evaluation playlist I have saved for public consumption once again last night. This is after returning the Whisper Elite to streaming LPS duty and adding a Tuning Ring to the Dragon HC. Everything was entirely exquisite. Definitely best yet. Such space and a natural ease. Not a voice or instrument that sounds wrong. Nothing is falling apart if you choose to push the volume. The sound holds up in the Home Theater arena also.

Now time to sub out Al’s Stealth on my preamp and try to find a cable worthy so I can trial the stealth VR18 SE versus the Dragon HC with tuning Ring. I need to finish up this trial and get his cable back he was so gracious to loan. I hope I can tune a regular Whisper I have unused now to make it work on preamp. May have to resort to double tuning rings. Otherwise must bite the bullet and order a Stealth. Easily a quarter of year of Tomahawks weekly.

I do say this Whisper cable trial sure has improved my system so far. Never thought I’d be tuning power cables yet alone owning So many Whispers and entertaining spending 8K on a power cable.

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joe-appierto

Let me start with the caveat that I haven’t been there since the mid-90s. But, there’s an establishment in Houston, the Taste of Texas, that had some of the best steaks I’d ever had. You used to be able to pick out the steak you wished at the display case when you entered, they had an excellent wine selection and they do have a Tomahawk steak on their menu. The price listed is $116 and it’s 38 oz.

Might be worth a shot.

EDIT: Just checked and Houston is way, way farther from DFW. Sorry about that.

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Thanks Joe. Yeah Houston is not a frequent haunt for me. One of my favorite steak houses is Pappas Brothers in DFW. H3 Ranch in Fort Worth Stockyards is also nice My all time favorite is Berns in Tampa.

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Fleming is very good but I have not tried it in TX. In fact I have only been in your state a couple times and that was years ago. I just remembered I liked the food portion a lot better than in SF.

On the golf course now and having a nice round, my system sounded better too and I’ll write more later.

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Okay my M-1 Masterpiece Fuse order is in. Can’t wait to see whether it is truly a work of art or a Purple fuse forgery.

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I hope your Whisper with tuning ring can compete with Stealth V18 in some areas. If it does then it is a great bargain, and you could have top-grade Tomahawks or even Wagyu every week. I have a Stealth V10, and I really like the sound. But in my system the AQ Dragon is the winner. Of course, V18 is a few grades higher so I have no doubt it is the best out here. But I really do not think I will spend more than a Dragon on any cable.

After I removed all the dust caps (or noise stopper as some called it) on non-used connectors, my system sounded quieter and more three dimensional. I am going to re-try some of the tuning rings to see if they make more difference now.

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I really hope M1 is equal or tiny bit better than Purple. I really like Purple and do not want to leave her so soon.

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waymanchen11Regular

Mine will also be here in 1 to 2 weeks also from Cable Company frequent flyer.
I can hardly wait. I have a good feeling about this one.

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It’s been a while since we’ve seen ChrisMag — their last post was 5 months ago.

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I received a Whisper today. Duncan apparently added something additional which is from the elite version (additional EMI shielding?). I’ve got it settling in between my Shunyata Denali V2 and Mola Mola DAC.

Initial impressions that it’s very good. My daily driver power cable to the DAC is an Alpha V2. I’ll try to add more detailed thoughts after the weekend.

FYI, for anyone who is curious to hear the Whisper, I’m in the Portland, OR metro area. PM me if you’re local and want to set up an listening session.

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Congratulations on the Whisper. They settle out quickly especially with Duncan’s burn in. I need to have my three whispers updated with the new EMI shielding. Looking forward to your review. Especially given you have the Shunyata cord. When and if you feel you want a bit more out of them. Make a tuning ring out of 3M. absorber. It is like have a dozen more power cords in one. You maybe satisfied as is with the added shielding of Duncan’s new design . They are that good.

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