I knew that too, but last I remembered FR = Full Range. So the FR5 really is SR5, “Some Range” :). I like to get a true FR stand mount
At what Frequency Range?
Generally speaking, I think the words “Full Range” following the words “Stand Mount” constitute a non sequitur.
Oxymoron will do.
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I didn’t call FR5 “Full Range”. Paul did.
Understood; and I am not trying to pick a fight.
How low would they have to go to meet your expectations?
My inquiry was meant to be sincere.
Relatedly, I am very encouraged by the reports of the excellent performance of the mid range and high frequency drivers produced so far for the FR line of loudspeakers.
This leads me to believe that if the stand mounts incorporate the best of the FRs in this regard, then adding a subwoofer or two could result in a real giant-killer of a speaker system at a very competitive price; and allow for optimum placement of the components of that system.
Regards.
It’s indeed interesting what exactly we’d call full range. Would be interested in various opinions.
I’d say one criteria is that it shouldn’t need a sub crossed over higher than 40 Hz without a hint of gap inbetween. So the speaker should go down at least to 30 Hz with just very little dB loss. The other criteria could be that it should have a substantial and coherent authority in upper bass to mids.
I think the coherent, authoritative bass-mids transition is something that can hardly be achieved by the volume of stand mounts, even if their frequency response towards the low bass might be surprisingly extended by whatever tricks, which would make them full range on paper.
I’d like to see a high end integrated amp. No built in DAC. No streamer. Just a preamp and stereo power amp in on package. Must have tone controls. Something that could compete with Luxman integrated amps.
That’s already a saturated market segment full of excellent choices from manufactures with years of experience and no Strata and Sprout don’t count as experience. What would you expect they could offer that’s not already out there other than their brand name?
I was thinking trickle down tech from their power amps.
Since Bascom designed integrated amps for many companies with I guess the last being Constellation I suspect that if he thought the tech from the BHK amps and preamp could have been combined into an integrated either he or Darren would have designed one. I suspect that with both of them gone and the makeup of some of their last released products, Air Lens and Gold DAC, you are seeing a change in direction in terms of electronic components.
I wish for this too but would also add a wish for a software interface for wifi, firmware , settings etc Airlens Mk 2 I mean - no DIP switches or WPS
I would just hope that they can remain profitable and keep ironing out wrinkles in the current system.
It appears as though the speaker lineup is going to be a huge hit and I am glad to see that as I am sure it was a huge financial hit getting up to speed.
It is still refreshing to see a smaller family owned business remain in the market and offer such a broad lineup of stuff.
A somewhat remarkable achievement in its own right…
I would put forward the idea that 30Hz is pretty danged full range. Nes Pas?
The FR30, PSA’s largest speaker, is spec’d at 28Hz-20kHz (-6dB). That’s taken from PSA’s web page just now.
“Full Range” means, as it always has, able to produce the full frequency range that humans with good hearing can hear, which is down to 20 Hz. It’s way more complicated than that but…
So PSA’s own spec speaks for itself, and sorry, it’s not full range.
Not trying to argue but let’s not distort the meaning of the term and try to claim that it means something much less. A model number is a model number and whatever, that’s fine, but their own spec tells the tale, for better or worse.
The truth is that there are very few “full-range” speakers anywhere on the market. Why? Because it’s expensive and hard to make them well and most people can’t afford a well-made speaker that is full range anyway. Possible to get amazing sound with speakers that are not full range, of course.
Perhaps a new classification for, “full-range elderly, compromised hearing”? (meant to be a joke)
Edit: Wilson Chronosonic XVX (a $350k-ish speaker) is spec’d at 20Hz - 30kHz +/- 2dB Room Average Response [RAR]. I imagine there’d be some who would take issue with that spec and say not full range, who knows. But this is at least arguably full range.
I would like to see a two chassis tube preamp.
When they say “RAR” they dont want to post the anechoic response due to fear of chasing off the numbers geeks. Anechoic will always drop off a lot earlier than “in room” but in room cant be predicted accurately…
Chris has discussed this bit of info in one of his videos.
30Hz is pretty FR! If FR5 can get there in the real world that would be superb! Love to see some at listening position freq sweep of PSA speakers in PSA listening room! without sub assist, since I believe you have sub in there even for FR30 right?
Two chassis DAC and PerfectWave Phono neck and neck. No pressure, Paul. None at all. :o)
Paul doesn’t have many nice things to say about integrated amps. I voted ‘Other’ because I’d like to see PS Audio come out with one that would pass the smell test for Paul (for those of us that would like to downsize a bit).