PS Audio AirLens

For me the Airlens with uPNP/DLNA has all it needs…but I wondered if there’s any other streamer/server without own SW?

I assume there still will be an add. PSA server unit at a later time? Or did. this plan stop with the drop of Octave SW?

There are a few. Allo uses a handful of different software (almost anything that will run on a Pi) but nothing on their own. Stack Link II does not have its own (and I can guess at what it is running). The Sooore Rendu and the SoTM units run its own (Linux?) kernel but no streaming frontend of its own. There are a few others.

Edit: iFi Zen Stream, Pi 2 Designs (Pi2AES)

@Paul , I know this sounds weird, but as I plan to buy the Airlens and just have the chance to get a Farad split cable in case I’ll need it….can you tell if an external PSU could make sense for the Airlens and is theoretically applicable as in the DS and if it would need 12V or a different voltage?

I feel bad to ask this about a not yet released product :wink:

No worries. The AirLens won’t have the ability to accept an external power supply. It’s all built in. Same for the new DS.

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Thank goodness! One less add-on box to worry about.

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Amen.

If anyone is interested in the Mano ULTRA, I have a new, unopened one available in my apartment. It is a mk I version, but it is very similar to the current model. It connects to the I2S cable that accepts the P S Audio Direct Stream DAC. It accepts Qobus services !

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Is it Roon ready?

I think you never have to worry about the add. Box if you don’t want to have one, as there’s always an internal solution present. It’s just that sometimes (as with the DS Mk I) you have the option.

It’s up to each one then to be happy, there’s an option … or as you stated, to be happy there’s no option you could think about….but then also no option to further improve (which is mostly the case as a comparable effort as for an external supply is rarely built in already).

Not sure myself what makes me more happy in this case…but it made me happy to have the option with the DS Mk I :wink:

As the Mano is a Pi, pretty sure it would use Ropieee.org to function as a Roon bridge

I know that one can use the Mano ULTRA as a Roon Bridge and as a Roon Endpoint according to head-fi.org/magna hifi mano ultra, April 14, 2019. To answer your question, you can contact info@magnahifi.com

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Yes. The Mano ULTRA is Roon ready. I have one and run RoPieee.
Works great!

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A production version has to be tested and certified by Roon, from what I gather. In the case of a few products that process can take time but others seem to speed through it.

So when the AirLens comes out, how many are planning to dump their Matrix SPDIF 2s?

My Silent Angel Munich M1T 8GB arrived today. HDMI I2S to Stellar DAC is working great with DSD128 coming from my NAS using their app to select music. The M1T sends it as DoP over an HDMI cable to the Stellar DAC. I will write up more under the thread: compatible-i2s-source-devices

I looked at the M1T recently. I contacted the vendor and they assured me that their I2S pin layout was compatible with the PSA standard. However, I decided to keep looking as it supports DSD256 over USB but over I2S is only up to DSD128.

Assuming that the initial comments on the AirLens are positive, my plan is get one and see if it betters my Aries G2.1 and matrix set-up in my 2 channel system. If it does, the Aries and Matrix will be put up for sale and I will likely buy a 2nd AirLens for the Directstream (with Bridge II) that I have in my HT/Music system. If it doesn’t better the Aries & Matrix combo, then they will remain and I will use the AirLens in my HT/Music system.

Just curious, how would you send data to the AirLens? Pushing from the Aries G2 using Auralic’s Lightning app?

Yeah, the AES, I2S and Coaxial outputs on the Silent Angel are linked in a group on their app as “Legacy Digital Output”. PCM goes to 32-384. But DSD is limited to DoP 128. USB Audio indeed shows Native DSD up to DSD256. But so far today I have not succeed in sending any USB to my Stellar DAC whatsoever. Maybe because the PS Audio owners manual for the Stellar only speaks of PCs using the PS Audio USB 2.0 driver. Don’t know yet. Still planning to post this in the other thread… compatible-i2s-source-devices. Based on the Ted Smith concept of jitter rising and quantization noise falling putting the “sweet spot” somewhere around DSD128 and DSD256, I am OK to stick with DSD128 as my top end. This is all de gustibus though of course…

So you are unable to send ANYTHING (PCM/Flac/DSD) through USB? That’s interesting. I poked at the setup, and it’s essentially a Raspberry Pi 4 with their own output board (through the GPIO pins).

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Perhaps it has to do with their OS/software? I notice they want to limit the current of both USB 2.0 and 3.0 outputs to 100ma (normally the Pi4 is rated at 1200ma combined through all 4 ports).

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