Sneak Peek: FR-30, now FR-80

Sorry did not notice that :slight_smile:

The information about PS Audio speakers has been interesting but rather confusing to say the least. It started with AN (Arnie Nudell) series. Being advertised as the best start for the best designs ever, with analog servo subwoofer drive and line arrangement mid and treble drivers, being called the „IRS killer“.

The 2 first PS Audio attempts killed nothing else but the (Arnie Nudell) name. Perhaps to not let the name be dragged along the process, the PS Audio speakers were renamed to FR (Full Range). The FR designs were published on the forum and their reputation was blown to oblivion by forum members just looking at them and nobody ever been able to listen to them.

After multiple years of advertising each design as the best solution to the complicated transition of electrical signals to mechanical excitement of sound waves PS Audio has come to realize that a smaller team of professionals working on this subject without being distracted by us forum trolls is more efficient than the embarrassment of having to publicly withdraw from those “best” designs ever.

I still hope that PS Audio will succeed in bringing a unique speaker design and technology to the market.

But the most recent comments indicate that the close to the wall living room friendly announced features are dropped. Understandable if your target market is one that has large living spaces and separate listening rooms/man caves/studios.

Funny thing is, as a vintage Infinity nut, looking at the setups of fellow Infinity nuts, it’s my observations that 85% of the larger Infinity systems are crammed into far too small of a space, up against the back wall (old school term used by Infinity), unable to achieve anywhere close to their real design potential.

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Yes, transparency and customer “collaboration” have their costs!

There are many great speakers out there, most sound best with lots of air around them.

I know designing speakers that sound really good close to the wall require designs that are considered to be a compromise for large room speakers. Funny enough indeed that people buy the speakers ideal for large rooms and cram them up against the wall.

The biggest reason: speakers off the wall are too invasive in the living room especially if they are part of a home hosting multiple people with different interest and the living room is the center of living for all of them.

In which case speakers designed for close wall placement potentially sound better regardless the raving reviews of those speakers positioned in the middle of dedicated listening rooms of the reviewers who do that for a living and use those rooms for nothing else.

Agree, and more so for dipoles like many of Arnie’s higher end systems including the IRS killers. I think adequate breathing room for many dipoles is probably 5+ feet of space behind the speaker, and maybe more space away from the side walls.

Funny enough, Rowen in Switzerland claim that their me dipoles perform best close to the wall, acoustic suspension enclosures though.

Rowen Symphony

I have had a long demo of these speakers, they do sound very good.

Rowen designs for Swiss, speak: “small” living rooms that offer hardly space to put speakers in the middle of the room.

Same applies to our rooms in the Netherlands.

Interesting. I have Infinity Epsilon speakers which are regarded as quasi dipole because the rear projecting sound from the midrange and lower midrange is a bit dampened or constrained. As I understand it, this is intended to address out of phase rear reflecting sound waves interfering with with the direct sounds waves out of the front of the baffle. I’m no expert, but I believe this reduces the need to place the speakers very far from the wall, as well as the need of rear diffusers.

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