The first track on a Redbook CD is the first track. 
And of course no one wants a fade in on any track.
Apparently some don’t mind. Some don’t even notice it until it’s pointed out to them.
I noticed it immediately. It just doesn’t bother me as much as it does some of the other people. To each their own I suppose. Though, while it doesn’t bother me, I hope the next release of firmware allows me to disable it if I so choose. With my setup, I can enable settings that make it so the fade in only happens once at the beginning of an album even if the album has gapless songs that lead into each other. if you don’t have such an option, I can understand the frustration. If I had to listen to a fade in for every song that I listened to, I’d be more upset.
I only get it on the 1st track of a disc. I’d be back to Redcloud in a flash if it was every track!
For those with a DMP, does pressing pause waiting a little the pressing play suppress the fade? (My system is torn asunder at the moment.)
Actually that’s something I hadn’t tried. When I get back home in the morning I’ll see if it has any positive effect.
Hi Ted,
Regarding a ‘better idea’ re the fade-in issue. You’ve said the ramp up occurs “on changes in sample rate, PCM ->; DSD or DSD -> PCM, clocks starting etc…”.
Firstly - I assume that those hearing fade-ins during play are falling foul of clock starts due to network or cabling issues, non-bitperfectness issues, Vanity-HD card not inserted correctly and goodness knows what else.
If this is fair, my next question is can a clock start be detected independently from the other cases? eg sample rate change.
If that is possible then might it not be a better idea, for clock starts only, to let the clicks/ticks occur per Readcloud? I think the fade-in is a reasonable solution for changes in sample rate, PCM ->; DSD or DSD -> PCM.
Many thanks for your work
Mark
A little background if you haven’t read all of my posts on the Snowmass related threads: The silly long ramp up is a bug, I used a long value so I could clearly hear (and measure on a scope) when transitions happened. I meant to make the ramp up time user configurable but default to an almost inaudible time, just long enough to stop some ticks from either initial crap or seeking to a loud piece of music.
Things like your suggestion are worth thinking about.
But typically clock starts are the noisiest - some sources send some crap after a clock start before send real data - we have a few customers where that crap blasted tweeters. On the other hand that crap doesn’t last too long or every DAC that locks before the crap is over would be blowing tweeters with those sources.
Just as a point of information:
The clock starting and the sample rate being defined happen at the same time (there are plenty of clocks per sample, so after the first partial sample things are “locked”
Sorry to have bothered you. I’ve been following this thread and didn’t notice that point. Must have had a ‘boy look’ 
Good ideas are always welcome.
Many thanks Ted.
Another example of the super-responsiveness of PS Audio to customer needs - most other companies would react slowly if ever to “minutae” of this type.
Hi Ted, maybe you answered this… sorry if you did… why can’t you add some ultra-low volume or null data during your ramp up? So it is ramping up during silence?
Ramping up is not bad per se…
Isn’t there some lesson about many chefs in a kitchen?
Peace
Bruce in Philly
Mine works flawlessly. I’ve tried listening for a “fade” but it’s just not there on my system with Snowmass and 3.10.
Same here. I have two DS boxes and I can’t hear any fade-in from either of them ?
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Its a very subtle fade and may be dependent on your music.
Listen to a 44.1k song then switch to a 192k song. It is very slight and more noticeable on some types of music and not others. Some songs have a longer period of silence before they play and it might not be heard.
Its only a slight issue if you constantly switch songs of different resolutions.
Ron
The problem is when you run a playlist, like I do often do. The playlist has over 2000 songs (my best of list) of all different types of data rates and a mix of FLAC and DSF files. I randomly sort and listen to the list all the time. The fade is a big issue under these circumstances!
Yes same for me. I drag and drop tunes and groups of tunes into the playlist in Foobar… then I get the transition rampup and it is not subtle.
However, to be fair, I am doing more jumping around than I usually do because I have new software and I like checking it out. As time moves on, I jump around less and less, but when the transition from one to another occurs, and they do, ramp…
Peace
Bruce in Philly
The digital music life promotes jumping around. It’s half the fun of having your collection organized this way. I still play whole CDs but end my listening nights jumping around from good-stuff to good-stuff.
To me (and others, e.g. amsco15) it is definitely not a slight issue!
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The good news is that Ted said it will be fixed.