Was Upcoming DS release - Now Windom has been released

I went back and forth with Snowmass several times, frankly incredulous over the raves for Windom.
Then I tried the suggested: download, remove card, shut off, have a pee, turn it on. And since, the sound is very different.
Right now listening to Mofi SACD, Kind of Blue, Freddie Freeloader and there is a noticeably silkier texture to Miles’ horn.

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That was a characteristic of the previous update, Snowmass 3.06. Deliberate.

You must have been experiencing the same problem I got when I first loaded Windom (Was Upcoming DS release - Now Windom has been released).

Glad you got Windom back on its feet.

Note: And I guess you confirm loading RedCloud is not really important - what matters is, as Ted said, powering off/on the unit after loading the firmware (without the SD card of course).

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On DSj I always power off/on after every single update, even to remove the pen drive.
Never went back and forward.
No issues with “bad” loads here.

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I have not yet loaded Windom and before I do I want to know how many people have had to install RedCloud before Windom in order to get Windom to sound good. It makes no sense to me to have to do that step unless there is a bug in Windom…even then it doesn’t make any sense. A hard reboot after installing new firmware makes sense though.

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Does that mean the DSD will read files up to DSD256 via usb jump drive in the DMP?

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I had to.

People talked about doing this in past releases as well. I was skeptical (very) back then.

I’m don’t think the DMP will do DSD256, but I could be wrong.

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POLL: Which is the Best-Sounding DS[J] Operating System?

  • Windom
  • Snowmass
  • Redcloud
  • Huron
  • Yale
  • Torreys
  • Other

0 voters

I’m waiting til they get all the way to Asian mountains and I’ll vote for “Everest.”

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Ok so if not through DMP then the file can be played if you have a laptop or server connected to the DSD via USB/Bridge?

I hope we don’t go down the rabbit hole where it is suggested “having a pee” has a definite impact on the upgrade :grin:

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There will be two camps who argue to the death. Camp number 1 and camp number 2.

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That’s one of the reasons I’ve been reluctant to do DSD256 via I2S. Most people don’t realize that they don’t have an I2S source that can source DSD256. Many of the XMOS based USB systems can’t do it (e.g. the DS’s USB). The Bridge can’t do it. Most of the Blackbone/Pi/etc. can’t do it. The Matrix X S/PDIF 2 can support DSD256, as can a variety of streamers (I don’t know which.)

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Did I miss a new feature or something? I thought that the DS couldn’t process DSD 256 from any input. Has this changed? Otherwise, I’m confused as to why this is this being discussed.

thats why I asked if it can be fed through the DMP via USB stick via I2S. the main I2S source most people have that own a DSD is the DMP.

Someone a little up asked if DSD256 via I2S was supported in Windom. I answered “no but the next OS probably will.”

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I’m certainly looking forward to DSD256 via I2S in the next release. It’ll force me to get my butt in gear and build the music server I’ve planning for the last 2 years.

Wow, that would be cool! I didn’t think that this was doable with the DS, even though your internal up-sampling rate is high enough. I had been under the impression that there was a hardware limitation somewhere which prevented this.

The biggest limitation is getting PC, Mac, etc. drivers for USB, then kludging a higher rate path from the USB chip… But I2S only requires testing, the I2S hardware has the bandwidth, the FPGA has the decoding time, there may be some debugging needed in things like the sample rate detector…

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