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2019 is the year to have from what I have read on the Z06 C7.

Few want to buy a manual, and an auto is superior in all objective ways.

Ferrari has not sold a manual since 2012.

The used Ferrari old school manual transmissions market price has skyrocketed since that decision. But yes performance wise the automatic is the winner. It’s also why the C8 Corvette is also automatic. More performance less fun to drive IMO. Tho the C8 is fun to drive I won’t lie.

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The price on manual late model Ferraris is because they are uncommon - which is what collectors want.

These cars are not being driven, neither because they are more fun or less fun.

The C8 is auto because sales of manuals are so low.

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True but there was a little more to it than that.

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I couldn’t care less what the technical reason is. I prefer a manual.

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Yes, a bit more but, as the article states, poor sales is the primary reason.

Both manuals and autos are fun, just different.

Amusingly on car forums those who prefer manuals often sound as if they believe they are morally superior. And a “real” enthusiast while the rest are pretenders.

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I’m with @RonP but if someone gave me an automatic C7 Z06 or a C8 I wouldn’t complain. My friend who has a 2021 Stingray also has a 2011 Camaro SS with a manual transmission. I asked why he didn’t sell the Camaro he said it’s because I need to get my manual transmission fix every now and then. He’s not suffering either way!

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The new Corvette is a sophisticated vehicle with the design of a European sports car, but much more affordable. I like these Design 1 vehicles. Puristic and limited to the bare essentials.

Seriously, no interest at all in the engineering behind a sports car?

I find these tidbits fascinating.

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I too am with @RonP. All my cars are manual (and therefore old). On track I’d actually prefer to not have ABS (I don’t track my 2003 BMW M3 and for road use leave traction control on because the rear suspension is dangerous without it). I’ve had a Cayman with PDK whilst my 2003 GT3 is being serviced and have to admit it led me to drive it as though I’d stolen it.

Update: seeing as nobody has yet added to the conversation, I like to mention another pet hate. I don’t ‘get’ why anyone would choose to have a sports exhaust along with an auto box (I’ve probably just made a lot of enemies, oh well).

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Of any community, this one could look at manual vs automatic as the new measurement wars, objective vs subjective, tubes vs solid state. Manual is analog. Auto is digital.

An odd interpretation of my comment.

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Plus 1,000 on that. I thought I was alone in that opinion.

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Sometimes the simplest answer says the most. “Why do I prefer manual?” I just do.

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Taking your pronouncement at face value, posted immediately after an article addressing technical reasons why the C8 does not have a manual option. Apparently you did not mean it. :slight_smile:

I do not have an opinion. I assume for the same reasons one may choose a sports exhaust with a manual. Why not?

Agreed! :upside_down_face:

Prolly beating a dead horse, but the analogy to playing vinyl records should be appreciated by a lot of us here.

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My 911 is stored at my buddy’s place for the winter. He sends me screenshots from his security cam to tease me. Cannot wait to cut it loose.

I’m out of town this week when it’s supposed to be mid-60’s in the Twin Cities. Then it turns back into winter when I get back. Grrrrr.

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As a race car driver I will chip in. Automatic IMHO are a no no on a race car. PDK, Paddle shifted (with and without driver activated clutches) are great as are regular stick shifted sequentials.

Just back from the Classic 12 at Sebring where I drove a 1972 Spec 2.5 liter 911ST (manual) and a Lightning Crown “Sprint Car” (known in the Midwest as a “Big Car”) with a sequential (with a manual clutch for 1st and reverse).

They all have their pluses and minuses and I have found that a well driven paddle or sequential yields faster lap times and more importantly saves engines from missed shifts.

I race ABS and non ABS cars. When I was racing GrandAm spec 997s I drove both ABS and non ABS there was a marginal difference in lap times for me. The biggest difference was the savings from flat spotted slicks.

Why are a lot of sports cars clutchless… warranty claims, simplicity of service and resale value.

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